[OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
Doug Davis
dug at us.ibm.com
Wed Aug 1 20:45:49 UTC 2012
>... or at least not join yet...
>... to hold off...
Asking for people to adhere to unwritten rules out of the goodness of
their heart is a nice wish but I wouldn't count on it.
If folks are unhappy with people adhering to the current rules then
perhaps the rules need to be changed - sooner rather than later.
thanks
-Doug
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Gil Yehuda <gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com>
08/01/2012 04:32 PM
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Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
The optics are bad. If I was at Rackspace I would have strongly advised
700 of those people not to join, or at least not join yet. I'm waiting for
the blog posts to be written that call this out.
Sure, if all you need are two people to sit on a board, then you don't
need to have 750 members than anyone else. This is not a critique of
commitment to the project (which Rackspace clearly has demonstrated above
everyone else), or of practical skew of votes (as you suggest, you only
get two seats anyway), but of the message sent to the community (and the
critics).
Remember, Rackspace elected to create a foundation since the feedback it
got from the community was that people perceive they are being over
controlling. Now, it is probably the case that Rackspace *was not* being
as over-controlling as people were accusing them of, but the charge was
damaging enough to the long-term health of this community for Rackspace to
say -- "Ok, we'll create a foundation and let it live outside of our
control." This was very clever and widely applauded as a great idea. But
this graph erodes that message, and invites further speculation that the
accusation was valid and is still a concern. It looks like someone was not
thinking of the implications.
The foundation exists so that people see this community as "ours" not
"yours" -- and Rackspace ought to be clever about this. If indeed it does
not have a material impact on the outcome of the board, all the more
reason to tell Rackspace (and HP) employees to hold off and not fuel this
backlash at this delicate time. The worst case scenario? Bad press, people
perceive the obvious, and leave. I invite some damage control.
gil yehuda
director of open source and standards, Yahoo! Inc.
gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com | (408) 336-4857
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefano Maffulli [mailto:stefano at openstack.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 1:06 PM
To: foundation at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
On 08/01/2012 12:37 PM, Gil Yehuda wrote:
> Seriously, when reviewing the Individual Membership part of the bylaws
> we noticed that companies could "game" the system by telling all their
> employees to sign up.
Maybe, but the way the rules for composition of the board make it
impossible for a company to have more than two people sitting on the
board. Out of 24 Board Members, what's the worst that can happen?
> This is a problem that we need to
> expose by social shaming -- which the script below will help do for
> us. Thank you!! I'd love to see a graph on the website itself.
I don't think there is nothing to be ashamed of if HP and Rackspace
employees are flocking to join as individual members. Speaking for what I
know at Rackspace, the company is investing deeply in OpenStack and I have
no doubt that this sort of support from corporate leadership is permeating
down the lines of employees.
I'd really like to investigate better the worst case scenario here,
considering the sort of systems put in place in the bylaws to have a
balanced board.
/stef
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