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add my gtalk, frans at meruvian.org, so let's chat

and i will organize all the work, and lets share and make action


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Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
Shadow Master and Lead Investor
Meruvian.
Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.

Mobile: +628557888699
Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)

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Website: http://www.meruvian.org

"We grow because we share the same belief."


On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org> wrote:
> hi Dean, glad the topic raise up.
>
> i am working with several hardware vendor, and canonical (which
> because mark's email to several his director in asia, followup of
> openstack summt in hongkong) the ball now getting hot.
>
> this sept Redhat launch RDO, HP Helion in 2 week, Quanta ToolBox
> OpensTack end of this month.
>
> I love we have SEA / Asia chat room to discuss ( i never tire to ask
> this , i believe since this mailing list born)
>
>
> so lets to something and make the market hot.. esp very hot in jakarta
> right now.. :()
> --
> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
> Meruvian.
> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>
> Mobile: +628557888699
> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
>
> FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
> TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>
> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Co, Dean Marc
> <dmc at dungeoninnovations.com> wrote:
>> Good day Frans & folks.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Great seeing helpful collaboration here.
>>
>> Agree with items below, regarding starting out small for first event,
>> establishing multi-sector channels, having focused agendas for it, and
>> joining up with other places.
>>
>> Although, admittedly, it might be difficult to have a pick on the focus
>> areas to promote to get our conference going and to establish channels is
>> not cheap.
>>
>> Thinking about it, you did mention you are aware of what HP, Canonical,
>> RedHat, and etc are doing, especially with your fears that OSUGs are either
>> friend or foe to these organisations and its efforts.
>>
>> Really hope you find ways to itemise on your OSUG objectives and prioritise:
>> is it to promote OpenStack in general? To build awareness of OSUG itself? To
>> build competencies? To find talent and contributors in the community who can
>> help write code for OpenStack? To generate clarity around OpenStack in
>> relation to OpenStack-powered solutions from vendors and from public cloud
>> offerings? Generate leads for some of your sponsors?
>>
>> If your goals line up with the known objectives of vendors doing their own
>> events, great! You have common ground. Otherwise, do continue with finding
>> gaps in the event lineup of said companies. I am sure you will find ways to
>> bring practical knowledge to your community (big or small). Installing and
>> configuring and configuration/version management alone of various moving
>> projects in the OpenStack line alone is still a big headache especially
>> pre-Grizzly. Add in some business perspectives in the discussions since this
>> is a critical component in any technical discussion, as much as we may want
>> to separate them..
>>
>> I am guilty of this in the past (well, until now once in a while :P) of user
>> group envy or other companies' event reception envy elsewhere (Our team
>> hails from Philippines who have started migrating some operations and
>> presence in Hong Kong and Singapore). I used to get distracted when bigger,
>> nicer, better resourced, and more mature markets and geographies gain such
>> better traction in such initiatives. I realise companies also target markets
>> appropriately, which in turn provide more trickles in sponsorship and
>> marketing funds. Talent ecosystem (not just one or two or three people or
>> companies and groups) is critical to these companies also.
>>
>> But at the end of the day, if you objectives and set expectations
>> reasonably, whether 5 people come or 100 come, it is ok. You can't please
>> everyone. I personally prefer to find a few good chats here and there than a
>> whole lot of people just complaining about the food you serve. :D
>>
>> Admire what you are doing. Carry on. Efforts like yours that simply tries
>> --- fail or succeed and amateurish or otherwise --- is exactly what keeps
>> the community vibrant, for better or worse.
>>
>>
>> Thank you and greetings, Dean Marc.
>> Director
>> Engineering | Design | Innovations
>>
>> Dungeon Innovations Pvt. Ltd.
>>
>> http://www.dungeoninnovations.com/
>>
>> http://www.twitter.com/deanmarc
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Marton Kiss <marton.kiss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Frans, what you think about focusing regional, Vietnam, Singapore is not
>>> so far away? Join your forces and try to target them also. Let's try to
>>> raise the number of reachable visitors, as Japan did a one-day event with
>>> 1100 attendees, I guess 3-400 is a nice number for first time. You need to
>>> make channels to startups / government / enterprise / universities. And I
>>> suggest to start cross-promote the user group for example, in python, php,
>>> other cloud areas.
>>>
>>> Regarding the format, first time we did a single main track for the first
>>> part of the event, and separated that into two parallel afternoon tracks.
>>> For the second one we added a so called "workshop" room as an experiment,
>>> and asked people to feel free to bring their notebooks, and join into
>>> practical sessions. It is very important to bring in interesting topics and
>>> key speakers, well-known in ecosystem.
>>>
>>> You can find of picture galleries of our events here:
>>>
>>> OpenStack CEE Day 2014
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/photos/+KalmanSzabo/albums/6020732736561543537?authkey=CL2dlfPdy_PunwE
>>>
>>> OpenStack CEE Day 2013
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/openstackhungary/sets/72157634182143722/
>>>
>>> Brgds,
>>>   Marton
>>>
>>> 2014-10-03 2:22 GMT+02:00 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
>>>>
>>>> right now we have several "assigned" voluteers from companies that
>>>> related and interest with Openstack
>>>>
>>>> which need to grow their brand..
>>>>
>>>> and this 2 months, they was and will launch their product, slow here,
>>>> that why, next year is good year to start
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we have meet up with full 80 participants and last month 2 participants
>>>> ;(
>>>>
>>>> F
>>>> --
>>>> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>>>> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
>>>> Meruvian.
>>>> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>>>>
>>>> Mobile: +628557888699
>>>> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
>>>>
>>>> FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
>>>> TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
>>>> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>>>>
>>>> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 7:19 AM, jgotangco at gmail.com <jgotangco at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I think key to your query is the number of people helping in the
>>>> > organization of the event. Without volunteers and peers, it would be
>>>> > difficult to pull off multi-organ events. If it's the first event, I
>>>> > would
>>>> > suggest making it simple but with a focused agenda and highly targeted
>>>> > audience. That I believe is key on building the community.
>>>> >
>>>> > My 2 cents :-)
>>>> >
>>>> > Jerome G.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Oct 3, 2014 8:12 AM, "Frans Thamura" <frans at meruvian.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> how many rooms are best for OpenStack Day?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> because OpenStack Meet Up only 1 room with 2-3 hours with 2 topics
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think a conference like, with 1 keynotes, 5 session paralel
>>>> >>
>>>> >> F
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>>>> >> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
>>>> >> Meruvian.
>>>> >> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mobile: +628557888699
>>>> >> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
>>>> >> TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
>>>> >> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Marton Kiss <marton.kiss at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > Hi Frans,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > We used to organise a yearly one-day event, called OpenStack CEE Day
>>>> >> > in
>>>> >> > Central Europe. The budget calculation really depends on you. If you
>>>> >> > know
>>>> >> > that visitors can afford a ticket, and you don't want to create a
>>>> >> > free
>>>> >> > event, you can share the costs between sponsors and attendees. So as
>>>> >> > I
>>>> >> > remember we had the following spendings for the event:
>>>> >> > - venue rental
>>>> >> > - wifi access
>>>> >> > - food / cafe
>>>> >> > - utilities: laptops / desks / projectors
>>>> >> > - badges
>>>> >> > - optionally vip room for speakers or a press room with drinks and
>>>> >> > snacks
>>>> >> > - promotion / marketing
>>>> >> > - rollup banners, etc.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The hardest thing is to estimate how much people can attend the
>>>> >> > event,
>>>> >> > and
>>>> >> > how much ticket you can give away (or sell). We applied a minimal
>>>> >> > fee
>>>> >> > for
>>>> >> > the tickets, because it is a Central European cultural behaviour if
>>>> >> > you
>>>> >> > pay
>>>> >> > for something, it have a higher chance to visit the event.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Cheers,
>>>> >> >   Marton
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > 2014-10-02 16:15 GMT+02:00 Frans Thamura <frans at meruvian.org>:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> hi all
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> wanna raise up this question
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> i need to secure budget esp for next year, to several vendor, esp
>>>> >> >> HP
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> any idea for the budget calculation?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> Frans Thamura (曽志胜)
>>>> >> >> Shadow Master and Lead Investor
>>>> >> >> Meruvian.
>>>> >> >> Integrated Hypermedia Java Solution Provider.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Mobile: +628557888699
>>>> >> >> Blog: http://blogs.mervpolis.com/roller/flatburger (id)
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> FB: http://www.facebook.com/meruvian
>>>> >> >> TW: http://www.twitter.com/meruvian / @meruvian
>>>> >> >> Website: http://www.meruvian.org
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "We grow because we share the same belief."
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Akihiro Hasegawa
>>>> >> >> <hasegawa at bit-isle.co.jp> wrote:
>>>> >> >> > Hi Frans,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > In Japan , we have an annual OpenStack local event , names
>>>> >> >> > OpenStack
>>>> >> >> > Days Tokyo.
>>>> >> >> > This year we got "30" sponsors and "1100+" attendees.
>>>> >> >> > You can see the detail of this event on this page.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > =Web page=
>>>> >> >> > http://www.openstackdays.com/en/
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > =Event report =
>>>> >> >> > http://www.openstackdays.com/files/OSDT2014report_en.pdf
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Regards,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Akihiro
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > On 2014/09/17, at 5:59, Frans Thamura wrote:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> Hi all
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> the ecosystem here in Indonesia, just starting hot with
>>>> >> >> >> OpenStack
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> but as usually user group will become threat as enemy or friend.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> next week first openstack event by RedHat,
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> next october will be Quanta with Canonical ( I am part of, so
>>>> >> >> >> OSUG
>>>> >> >> >> Indonesia part of them also)
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> and soon Helion from HP.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> sadly PowerVM (Openstack kernel on Power processor in iSeries),
>>>> >> >> >> still
>>>> >> >> >> dont want to call it openstack :)
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> there are new bundle event from Intel with Redhat regarding
>>>> >> >> >> Swift
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> and an offer from ceph to bundle also. still in progress
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> right now, i am bring them to the OpenStack Day, because I want
>>>> >> >> >> to
>>>> >> >> >> make them as speaker, sponsor.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> but several love to have their own event, rather collaborate
>>>> >> >> >> with
>>>> >> >> >> OpenStack User Group
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> right now we are discussion content with Quanta, Inspur,
>>>> >> >> >> Canonical,
>>>> >> >> >> HP
>>>> >> >> >> regrading topic, but I think only Quanta, inspur, canonical ..
>>>> >> >> >> HP ,
>>>> >> >> >> Dell still dont know, how to step in this cloud movement .
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> any tips all?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> can I have all you OpenStack Day activities this year, from
>>>> >> >> >> every
>>>> >> >> >> country, plz give me your URL, proposal or pic gallery
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> thx
>>>> >> >> >>
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