Hi,

thanks for a great initiative.

I fully support the above objections regarding training requirements,

Furthermore, I do not understand pt.3:

1. "Group organised and coordinated, multiple people from diverse employment involved in organisation, impartial (...)" 2. 3. I assume the goal is to prevent individual companies from monopolizing a group and using it as a marketing platform. 4. However, in my case I run a rather active group on my own with 0 other volunteers to help out, so I think the requirement for "multiple people" should be changed.

On 18 July 2014 00:18, Jaesuk Ahn bluejay.ahn@gmail.com wrote:

Sean, Tom. Stepano,

Thanks for putting los of efforts to make us (communities) great. I am happy with most of things suggested in etherpad, except some details on training requirements. Pls see my comments on etherpad.

Thank you.

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2014. 7. 18. 오전 4:13에 "Sean Roberts" seanrob@yahoo-inc.com님이 작성:

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Can we give ourselves a deadline, like jm3, for wrapping up the official user group template? I'd like to socialize our ambassador team decision on this at the ambassador summit talk.

Btw, I added some new details to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OfficialUserGroupProcess

~sean

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On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Tom Fifield" tom@openstack.org wrote:

Hi all,

As Stefano mentioned, we will soon be launching the new user group portal to make it easier to find group information and events.

Rather than having a long list on the wiki, we will now have individual pages for the user groups - searchable through a map.

To raise the visibility of active and established groups, we'd like to give them some kind of "official" status and potentially a special logo.

Stef, the ambassadors and myself have written up a quick draft on a process that we might follow to manage the way user groups become "Official".

You can find it on the etherpad at:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OfficialUserGroupProcess

please let us know what you think.

Regards,

Stef & Tom

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Thanks Jaesuk.

For those on the mailing list wondering what this 'training requirements' thing people are talking about is - it was a suggestion by Sean Roberts on the etherpad, not part of the original proposal.

Personally, I agree and believe requiring user groups to offer training is too onerous. I've added comments to this effect on the etherpad, in-line.

However, I think Sean raises some good ideas that we can consider, though these are probably best separated from the official user group process discussion: * swag - we should investigate providing a welcome kit for new user groups (stickers, posters, tshirts, ... ?) * speaker registry - we need a speaker registry. stay tuned for news here - and check out the new items on the summit speaking submission form * training - user groups could provide training and we should assist with this if needed * have intermediate levels before 'official'

Regards,

Tom

On 17/07/14 15:18, Jaesuk Ahn wrote:

Sean, Tom. Stepano,

Thanks for putting los of efforts to make us (communities) great. I am happy with most of things suggested in etherpad, except some details on training requirements. Pls see my comments on etherpad.

Thank you.

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2014. 7. 18. 오전 4:13에 "Sean Roberts" <seanrob@yahoo-inc.com

mailto:seanrob@yahoo-inc.com>님이 작성:

Can we give ourselves a deadline, like jm3, for wrapping up the
official user group template? I'd like to socialize our ambassador
team decision on this at the ambassador summit talk.

Btw, I added some new details to
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OfficialUserGroupProcess

~sean

> On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Tom Fifield" <tom@openstack.org
<mailto:tom@openstack.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> As Stefano mentioned, we will soon be launching the new user group
> portal to make it easier to find group information and events.
>
> Rather than having a long list on the wiki, we will now have
individual
> pages for the user groups - searchable through a map.
>
> To raise the visibility of active and established groups, we'd like to
> give them some kind of "official" status and potentially a special
logo.
>
> Stef, the ambassadors and myself have written up a quick draft on a
> process that we might follow to manage the way user groups become
> "Official".
>
> You can find it on the etherpad at:
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OfficialUserGroupProcess
>
> please let us know what you think.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Stef & Tom
>
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Hi Carol,

Thanks for reading.

We have some canned text about this:

""" The OpenStack User Groups are informal associations of people around the world that meet to discuss about OpenStack, share knowledge and experiences. These are important entities for the OpenStack project as they help by spreading awareness, recruit developers and users and more. """

So far there are more than 75 user groups around the world. Quite a few of them meet on a regular basis, and so in many cities around the world you can find an event to attend and go and chat with people about OpenStack, or view a presentation or two.

""" The user groups don't have a direct relation with the OpenStack Foundation even though the members of the user groups can be members of the OpenStack Foundation and/or be a member of the OpenStack User Committee. """

We don't control user groups - they form organically when there are interested people in a particular location. They self-organise and vary in their approach based in their own needs. That's something we support.

It's also important not to confuse "user groups" with "working groups of the user committee" - two different things :)

Regards,

Tom

On 17/07/14 16:03, Barrett, Carol L wrote:

Tom - I'm a supporter of the concept and have read through the etherpad. Beyond uniting people of like interests, it's not clear to me what the purpose/goal is for adding more user groups?

My thought is that we would want to build some other requirements/guidance into the process to make sure we're achieving the desired goal. Like would we want the user group to host a session during the design summit to provide input? Or develop blue prints to address requirements for the segment? OR?

Thanks Carol

-----Original Message----- From: Tom Fifield [mailto:tom@openstack.org] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:41 AM To: community@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-community] "official" user group process

Hi all,

As Stefano mentioned, we will soon be launching the new user group portal to make it easier to find group information and events.

Rather than having a long list on the wiki, we will now have individual pages for the user groups - searchable through a map.

To raise the visibility of active and established groups, we'd like to give them some kind of "official" status and potentially a special logo.

Stef, the ambassadors and myself have written up a quick draft on a process that we might follow to manage the way user groups become "Official".

You can find it on the etherpad at:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OfficialUserGroupProcess

please let us know what you think.

Regards,

Stef & Tom

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