[OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup APAC 2015-08-27

Eoghan Glynn eglynn at redhat.com
Tue Sep 29 18:54:09 UTC 2015



> > On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Alexis Lee <lxsli at hpe.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Lauren Sell said on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:47:04PM -0500:
> >> Please review and provide any feedback before the Foundation staff helps
> >> distribute the survey this week:
> >> 
> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRCdI%3d
> > 
> > Q6: Maybe "What racial and/or ethnic group(s) do you belong to?". Bit of
> > a mouthful but it's more inclusive of mixed race. It's so hard to phrase
> > this question well when the whole concept of race is so simplistic :(
> 
> Sounds good
> > 
> > Q7: s/have you/you have/
> 
> Got it
> > 
> > Q8: I'd slice by 10 years above 25, just to limit the options, but this
> > is OK.
> 
> I also thought it resulted in a lot of options, but I wasn’t sure if there
> was a particular reason the diversity working group wanted more granular
> data.
> > 
> > Q9: this is frequency rather than level of engagement but I'm being
> > picky :)
> 
> I’ll reword the question a bit.
> > 
> > Q11: Is the word 'speak' prejudicial? Some people find English easier to
> > read and write than speak. Maybe "How do you find working in English?
> > Difficult / OK / No problem”.
> 
> Agree
> 
> > For religion, this seems a good start. There's a clear boundary around
> > 5% of world population. I was initially concerned "Chinese folk
> > religion" was a bit insulting but (from 2mins further reading on
> > Wikipedia) it seems to be the accepted terminology.
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions
> 
> For the sexuality and religion questions, I would personally feel more
> comfortable asking something along the lines of "do you feel that your
> sexual orientation or religious beliefs have adversely impacted your ability
> to participate in our community?” and/or “how have you seen other
> communities / organizations successfully create an inclusive environment?” I
> think the current questions risk being intrusive or viewed as irrelevant,
> and may not result in actionable data.

Yes, that.

Totally agree, especially on the religion question.

Knowing that someone objected to a community event being held too close to
Passover (as has happened with PyCon) is useful, actionable information.

Whereas knowing the number of community members who are self-declared
adherents of a particular religion is neither useful nor actionable, and
IMHO not really any of our business.

Cheers,
Eoghan 

> Using the opportunity to gather some
> real feedback about any barriers in the community, as well as actionable
> recommendations seems like a more desirable outcome for the working group.
> 
> > Race is much more difficult. I found the "recommendations" here
> > interesting: http://www.aaanet.org/gvt/ombdraft.htm
> > 
> >> - I took a stab at adding some reference points for question #9, but
> >> am open to feedback here. The 1-10 response seemed pretty subjective
> > 
> > I agree and I like your options. I'd just add "full-time". This question
> > seems to make any ATC-related question redundant, which is good.
> > 
> > 
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