[OpenStack Foundation] [Foundation Board] propose 2015 board meeting dates

Jonathan Bryce jonathan at openstack.org
Tue Feb 24 18:41:37 UTC 2015

On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:33 AM, Steven Noble <snoble at sonn.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On transparency and openness, as always I'm hugely in favor of improving
>> this. I don't think this decision needed to be made privately. However,
>> turning a relatively mundane decision into an unnecessarily heated and
>> charged debate does little to encourage people to be more open.
> Hopefully you can see the issue with your “molehill into a mountain” statement.  Since we (the general community) have limited insight into what is happening in the private board discussions, we can only work with what we have.  When a mundane issue like this is discussed and decided privately, it shows that there is an issue with openness and transparency.
> As you are a member of the board, it is concerning that you believe bringing up a transparency issue (no matter how small) will create a situation where you and others will be less open and hence continue to drive transparency and openness in the wrong direction.

If you’ve worked with markmc for any amount of time, you know that he’s been a huge advocate pushing for transparency and openness for years. Not to put words in his mouth, but I’m pretty sure his statement has nothing to do with bringing up a transparency issue of any kind and more to do with the tone and approach we use in the discussion. There are definitely effective and ineffective tactics for bringing people into a discussion or constructive debate, and I believe he is encouraging us to have that kind of constructive discussion.


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