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Hi Pierre,

I can agree with you that ops people would receive a similar recognition to
ATC. I think the proper forum is the operators community, they need to
lobby as a group at the Foundation, or propose a program to make it happen.
We love OpenStack too, but if you're doing it for a while, you know that it
have all the processes and politics inside to move forward different
important cases, and you can believe me everyone is really committed here.

I'm not sure this can happen for Austin due to short timeframe, but if you
help to reach out the key influencers in the operators community, and
support them writing the program, this can be a reality for Barcelona
Summit.

Brgds,
  Marton Kiss
  OpenStack Ambassador

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:03 AM Christian Berendt <christian at berendt.io>
wrote:

> Hello Pierre.
>
> On 02/18/2016 06:32 PM, Pierre Freund wrote:
> > "We are OpenStack", but you know what, I don't really feel to be part of
> > this "We". And I think I'm not the only ops folks feeling this.
>
> I think a lot of people feel like you.
>
> > At the last summit, I went to the ambassador's session to speak about
> > this. My point was that people spending time for the community should
> > have an easier access to the summit by giving them "Active Community
> > Contributors" Pass. The only answer I had was "If you can't afford the
> > ticket, use the travel program".
>
> The Osops project should make it easier for ops to receive a summit ticket.
>
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Osops
>
> > Then, I went to the "feedback session" of the summit, and said that I
> > was really involved in OpenStack, and I deserved an "Active Ops
> > Contributor" badge. Everybody agreed. The ATC program is B.R.O.K.E.N.
>
> Confirmed.
>
> > My only solution? Make a bullshit commit, correct something in the docs,
> > correct a typo in a comment… not very interesting. Here is one of my
> > $1200 single character commit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/20076/ .
> > And this makes me an "Active Contributor" for two summits??
>
> Every commit is important, documentation commits are important. A commit
> has not to be interessting. Please do not grade down simple commits.
> Every single commit improves the overall quality of OpenStack.
>
> > And what about people helping local user groups?
>
> They should be honrored and supported. It is a shame that the foundation
> has more than 20 million US Dollars for 2016 and a single user group
> (independent of there size) only receives 500 US Dollars / year to
> support celebration activities. Ambassadors spend a lot of time, they
> have to travel, the receive nothing. Ambassadors are not hired by the
> foundation, we are even not allowed to use official @openstack.org mail
> addresses. User group organizers are not supported, ...
>
> Christian.
>
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