Re: [openstack-community] Pre & Post Summit events in Asia
Oops, sorry about mis-sending. Tom, We are happy to organize event(s) in Korea, either as pre or post summit. I will have a discussion inside our community, and let you know more detail. However, knowing which kinds of people (for example, foundation director or tech people like PTL?) can possibly join the event will help us a lot to determine the details. Thank. Jul 15, 2013, 8:55 AM, Jaesuk Ahn <bluejay.ahn@gmail.com> 작성:
Tom,
This is a great idea and I'd be happy to organise event(s) in Australia pre or post Summit.
We need to seek volunteers from the "expertise pool" that would like to do this, and possibly make it attractive with the help of some airfare/accommodation benefit (Foundation or sponsor contributed) that the person is free to extend or alter at their own expense, (ie they can get a quick holiday in).
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Bruce Lok <brucelok@cyberport.hk> wrote: Hi Yoyo, You are welcomed to Hong Kong. I really want to meet you guys in the Summit.
Regards, Bruce Lok Coordinator of HKOSUG
From: Yoyo Chiang [yoyochiang55@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:44 PM To: Tom Fifield Cc: community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Pre & Post Summit events in Asia
Although we (Taiwan) would like to see more experts coming, but we will encourage our members to join HK summit at first... since it's the closest one we have had^^
Cheers,
Yoyo
2013/7/11 Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com> This is a great idea and I'd be happy to organise event(s) in Australia pre or post Summit.
We need to seek volunteers from the "expertise pool" that would like to do this, and possibly make it attractive with the help of some airfare/accommodation benefit (Foundation or sponsor contributed) that the person is free to extend or alter at their own expense, (ie they can get a quick holiday in).
On 11 July 2013 13:11, Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org> wrote: Hi all,
I hope you're excited for our upcoming summit in Hong Kong :)
One of the ideas that has been floating around is that since we'll have an incredible mass of OpenStack expertise in the area for the summit, why don't we try and arrange some events in Asia before and afterward?
This will mean that those multitudes in the region who can't make it to the summit can get exposure to the experts, and that leads to increased contributions and encourages global collaborations.
Of course, organising this is going to take some work, and it needs to happen quite soon - as people are booking flight tickets early to get the best deal.
What do you think about this idea? Will your group help organise an event? How do you think is the best way to make it work?
Regards,
Tom
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It might make sense to put a call on openstack-dev and ask who might have availability for these events. I think you'd stand a good chance of getting a few core developers at the least. Cheers, Michael -- Rackspace Australia
Hi all, Thanks so much for your replies! It seems we have quite a few interested places to host pre or post summit events (Australia, China, HK, India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam (Danang!)). The discussion raised some comments - to summarise them briefly: 1) Format of event - a dedicated event, or possibly tied in with another conference 2) Who are the people? Foundation Staff? PTL? Core Developers? Other? ==> Need to know this before organising the event ==> Posting on openstack-dev may be the next step? 3) How to get the experts to come ==> Maybe: hosting the event in a holiday area, or encouraging them to have a holiday there ==> Maybe: asking the Foundation, or other sponsors for some funding for airfares/accommodation For the format of the event (#1), what do your communities desire? Which ones of these would be desirable? Maybe choose the top 5 ? 1. a generic overview of OpenStack 2. an overview of OpenStack from a business perspective 2. standard horizon demo 3. project overview for each project 4. how to contribute 5. lots of interactive question and answer time 6. overview of {nova, swift, neutron, glance} APIs 7. 'hack fest' to setup dev environment and allow people to become ATC 8. tips on how to run the community, find sponsors etc 9. session on how to develop applications to use Openstack APIs/SDKs 10. discussion of operations best practices 11. information on vendor products available 12. discussion of OpenStack Continuous integration 13. workshop on translating OpenStack into your language 14. case studies from openstack operators 15. 'sprint' around a specific task - eg documentation 16. ... ? Also: is this a 4 hour event? a 1 day event? 2 days? With an idea of the kind of things that might be useful for the different communities, we can work to find people ... Regards, Tom On 15/07/13 10:10, Ahn Jaesuk wrote:
Oops, sorry about mis-sending.
Tom,
We are happy to organize event(s) in Korea, either as pre or post summit. I will have a discussion inside our community, and let you know more detail.
However, knowing which kinds of people (for example, foundation director or tech people like PTL?) can possibly join the event will help us a lot to determine the details. Thank.
Jul 15, 2013, 8:55 AM, Jaesuk Ahn <bluejay.ahn@gmail.com <mailto:bluejay.ahn@gmail.com>> 작성:
Tom,
This is a great idea and I'd be happy to organise event(s) in Australia pre or post Summit.
We need to seek volunteers from the "expertise pool" that would like to do this, and possibly make it attractive with the help of some airfare/accommodation benefit (Foundation or sponsor contributed) that the person is free to extend or alter at their own expense, (ie they can get a quick holiday in).
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Bruce Lok <brucelok@cyberport.hk <mailto:brucelok@cyberport.hk>> wrote:
Hi Yoyo, You are welcomed to Hong Kong. I really want to meet you guys in the Summit.
Regards, Bruce Lok Coordinator of HKOSUG
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Yoyo Chiang [yoyochiang55@gmail.com <mailto:yoyochiang55@gmail.com>] *Sent:* Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:44 PM *To:* Tom Fifield *Cc:* community@lists.openstack.org <mailto:community@lists.openstack.org> *Subject:* Re: [openstack-community] Pre & Post Summit events in Asia
Although we (Taiwan) would like to see more experts coming, but we will encourage our members to join HK summit at first... since it's the closest one we have had^^
Cheers,
Yoyo
2013/7/11 Tristan Goode <tristan@aptira.com <mailto:tristan@aptira.com>>
This is a great idea and I'd be happy to organise event(s) in Australia pre or post Summit.
We need to seek volunteers from the "expertise pool" that would like to do this, and possibly make it attractive with the help of some airfare/accommodation benefit (Foundation or sponsor contributed) that the person is free to extend or alter at their own expense, (ie they can get a quick holiday in).
On 11 July 2013 13:11, Tom Fifield <tom@openstack.org <mailto:tom@openstack.org>> wrote:
Hi all,
I hope you're excited for our upcoming summit in Hong Kong :)
One of the ideas that has been floating around is that since we'll have an incredible mass of OpenStack expertise in the area for the summit, why don't we try and arrange some events in Asia before and afterward?
This will mean that those multitudes in the region who can't make it to the summit can get exposure to the experts, and that leads to increased contributions and encourages global collaborations.
Of course, organising this is going to take some work, and it needs to happen quite soon - as people are booking flight tickets early to get the best deal.
What do you think about this idea? Will your group help organise an event? How do you think is the best way to make it work?
Regards,
Tom
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Hi Tom, My suggestion would be: On 07/15/2013 03:45 AM, Tom Fifield wrote:
1) Format of event - a dedicated event, or possibly tied in with another conference
A single day of sessions with experts, which would be repeated for each venue. It is possible that for certain topics, a local expert would be better to have a smaller number of people travelling.
2) Who are the people? Foundation Staff? PTL? Core Developers? Other? ==> Need to know this before organising the event ==> Posting on openstack-dev may be the next step?
I would invite people covering both the technical and commercial universe surrounding OpenStack - covering an introduction to OpenStack & IaaS, Nova, storage, networking & network services, service orchestration, emerging technologies (measurement, provisioning, image services, ...) Then, plan the road show for the week after the Summit, with an event every second day in SW Asia - this would be a considerable time commitment for the people involved, so it would make sense for the foundation & organisers to sponsor both accommodation and travel for the speakers. This also would require of participants to basically take 2 weeks leave from their companies, families & other duties, so I can imagine that many potential participants will not be eager to sign up. I can imagine that some potential participants would be interested if it were a client engagement, so perhaps a budget to pay some speakers would be appropriate too?
3) How to get the experts to come ==> Maybe: hosting the event in a holiday area, or encouraging them to have a holiday there ==> Maybe: asking the Foundation, or other sponsors for some funding for airfares/accommodation
I think that sponsoring flights é accommodation (for the type of format I'm proposing) is common decency. The big issue would be whether you will be able to find people to take so much time out of their lives, especially after already taking a week to be in Hong Kong. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
On 07/15/2013 05:29 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
My suggestion would be:
+1 for all the suggestions Dave made.
Then, plan the road show for the week after the Summit, with an event every second day in SW Asia
If I understand correctly you're imagining one or more travelling groups of people going together from, say, Hong Kong to Shanghai to Danang to Seoul. I was thinking more of one or two people going to *one* place after Hong Kong as it would multiply the opportunities and be less demanding on the speakers. The time commitment would probably be of an extra 3, 4 days after the Hong Kong event. I'd suggest we setup a call for speakers (an online form and a message to the lists + blog post) as soon as possible to evaluate if there is enough people willing to stay in the area after the Summit. We can then try to match the offers with the requests to host events and adjust rapidly. Thoughts? /stef -- Ask and answer questions on https://ask.openstack.org
Hi, On 07/15/2013 06:26 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
If I understand correctly you're imagining one or more travelling groups of people going together from, say, Hong Kong to Shanghai to Danang to Seoul. I was thinking more of one or two people going to *one* place after Hong Kong as it would multiply the opportunities and be less demanding on the speakers. The time commitment would probably be of an extra 3, 4 days after the Hong Kong event.
Either of those approaches work. I think that a group could potentially do 2 events in the 3-4 days after the Summit.
I'd suggest we setup a call for speakers (an online form and a message to the lists + blog post) as soon as possible to evaluate if there is enough people willing to stay in the area after the Summit. We can then try to match the offers with the requests to host events and adjust rapidly.
Thoughts?
Sounds sane. Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13
Instead of call for speakers, maybe we could also list a "call for events" to understand where and when those events would be, to match with potential speakers (or let speaker decide which event they would like to go). Thought? Yoyo 2013/7/16 Dave Neary <dneary@redhat.com>
Hi,
On 07/15/2013 06:26 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
If I understand correctly you're imagining one or more travelling groups of people going together from, say, Hong Kong to Shanghai to Danang to Seoul. I was thinking more of one or two people going to *one* place after Hong Kong as it would multiply the opportunities and be less demanding on the speakers. The time commitment would probably be of an extra 3, 4 days after the Hong Kong event.
Either of those approaches work. I think that a group could potentially do 2 events in the 3-4 days after the Summit.
I'd suggest we setup a call for speakers (an online form and a message to the lists + blog post) as soon as possible to evaluate if there is enough people willing to stay in the area after the Summit. We can then try to match the offers with the requests to host events and adjust rapidly.
Thoughts?
Sounds sane.
Cheers, Dave.
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On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:08 AM, Yoyo Chiang <yoyochiang55@gmail.com> wrote:
Instead of call for speakers, maybe we could also list a "call for events" to understand where and when those events would be, to match with potential speakers (or let speaker decide which event they would like to go).
+1
Thought?
Yoyo
2013/7/16 Dave Neary <dneary@redhat.com>
Hi,
On 07/15/2013 06:26 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
If I understand correctly you're imagining one or more travelling groups of people going together from, say, Hong Kong to Shanghai to Danang to Seoul. I was thinking more of one or two people going to *one* place after Hong Kong as it would multiply the opportunities and be less demanding on the speakers. The time commitment would probably be of an extra 3, 4 days after the Hong Kong event.
Either of those approaches work. I think that a group could potentially do 2 events in the 3-4 days after the Summit.
I'd suggest we setup a call for speakers (an online form and a message to the lists + blog post) as soon as possible to evaluate if there is enough people willing to stay in the area after the Summit. We can then try to match the offers with the requests to host events and adjust rapidly.
Thoughts?
Sounds sane.
Cheers, Dave.
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Ahn Jaesuk
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Stefano Maffulli
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Tom Fifield
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