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[openstack-community] Last call for Ignite Talks - OpenStack Day Israel
by Jeremy Hess 22 May '16

22 May '16

Hi Everyone, OpenStack Israel is happening June 2nd in Tel Aviv. We are closing the Ignites by Friday, May 27th and we want your submissions. Feel free to submit talks at this link: https://docs.google.com/a/gigaspaces.com/forms/d/19HHreDjpCzKbCXMhHyLZpjcb-… More info on OpenStack Day Israel: http://www.openstack-israel.org/ Thanks! The OpenStack Day Israel Team

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Re: [openstack-community] Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit
by Nick Chase 20 May '16

20 May '16

On May 20, 2016 4:41 AM, "Florian Haas" <florian(a)hastexo.com> wrote: > > On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 2:51 AM, Adam Lawson <alawson(a)aqorn.com> wrote: > > I think the dynamic links and removing static links (of voting is preserved) > > is awesome. I apparently missed that. > > > > Huge+1 from me on that idea. > > I think this is a good idea as well, with one minor detail though: as > a community reviewer, I'd like to be able to give a talk just a > cursory review, not immediately make a decision on how to grade or > what to comment, and come back to it later. With static links that's > easy: I can simply compile my own bookmark list. With dynamic/random > links, the system would have to provide an alternative. > > So, rather than inventing a separate bookmark system, maybe make links > static per-user? Meaning every logged-in user gets a different link > for the same talk, but for that user the link doesn't change? That > still keeps me from sharing the link to my own talk (or more > precisely, make it useless — another user would simply get a 404 if > they tried to open it), but allows me to compile my own bookmarks. > > Just an idea. And a darned good one, IMHO. I just typed (and erased) that it might me too complex to code in time, as part of the point was to lessen developer workload, but I've actually just thought of a simple way to do it; let me know if you want help. (If we go this way.) ---- Nick

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[openstack-community] Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit
by Claire Massey 20 May '16

20 May '16

Hi everyone, For the past few Summits, we've received mixed feedback about having the community vote on proposed sessions as part of the call for speakers process. Historically, after the call for speakers closes, we publish all submitted sessions for community voting before the track chairs review them. The track chairs then choose how much weight to put on the voting resuls, if any, because they make the ultimate decision about which sessions are selected. More info on Track Chairs can be found at the bottom of this email. With the growing number of speaking submissions (we had 1,300 for Austin), some community members have expressed concerns about social media channels and email getting spammed during the week of voting. We also think many community members are unclear as to how much the votes weigh on the final decision. For example, some think that if someone campaigns for votes or asks their colleagues to vote, the session will likely be accepted (which may not be the case). We would like to propose removing voting from the selection process for the October 2016 Barcelona Summit, but want to get your input before making a final decision. Our thinking is that by removing voting from the process, we will: - Save valuable time during the overall Summit programming process, which should allow us to publish the final agenda and notify speakers sooner - Allow our development teams more time to focus on improving the mobile app and web schedule developed during the last Summit cycle - Reduce the spam and noise around voting, so we don't cause Twitter fatigue before we're promoting the final agenda and key themes - Level the playing field for speakers from startups, new community members, etc. who may not have an established network in the community for voting We initially started the voting process for good reasons and we do think there's value, but we're reaching a point where the costs are starting to outweigh the benefits. We'd like to get your input before we open the call for speakers in early June for the Barcelona Summit. Thanks, Claire Track Chair Info Track Chairs are subject matter experts who review submissions to their particular track, for example "storage" or "cloud applications." There are typically 3-4 chairs per track who review and collaboratively decide which presentations are ultimately accepted for inclusion on the final agenda. The Foundation strives to recruit Track Chairs from a diverse set of companies, regions, roles in the community (i.e., contributing developers, users and business leaders) and areas of expertise. Information on how to nominate yourself or someone else to serve as a track chair for the Barcelona Summit will be published when the call for speakers goes live in early June. For reference, here's information on the Track Chairs from the Austin Summit: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Austin_Summit_Track_Chairs <https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Austin_Summit_Track_Chairs> and https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/categories/selection-process <https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/categories/selection-process>.

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[openstack-community] linux mount with cloudfare issue
by Chase Miller 19 May '16

19 May '16

Hello, So I'm starting to use Object Storage that my cloud provider has provided, and I mounted the object storage to linux with the cloudfare /mntpoint. After over 1 million files moved with the mv command, the file system became unmounted and would not mount again, with the error message Transport endpoint is not connected Any ideas?

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Re: [openstack-community] Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit
by Roland Chan 19 May '16

19 May '16

Procedural fairness trumps magical thinking. I doubt anything will guarantee a good outcome. Guarantees are only worth the money they are printed on. Roland On 20 May 2016 12:11 am, "Doug Hellmann" <doug(a)doughellmann.com> wrote: On May 19, 2016, at 10:06 AM, Roland Chan <roland(a)aptira.com> wrote: This attendees-only idea isn't entirely without merit, but the audience isn't just people who attend. That is, unless the travel support program decides to go webscale. One can't exclude voters because they can't afford to spend a few thousand dollars to fly to Austin for a week. Some may say such a proposition would be be racist in effect if not intent, but I couldn't possibly comment. :P That's a good point. On the other hand, anyone in the world, whether they’re normally part of the community or not, can watch the videos. So optimizing to allow every potential viewer to have input into the program, over the people who do attend in person, doesn’t really have any guarantee of giving us a good outcome either. That said, I threw out the piece of information as a data point. I still think having track chairs empowered to build the best program they can will give better results than any amount of crowd-sourcing. Doug There are two fundamental choices: democracy or not (which includes curation, oligarchy and dictatorship). If we want to have a reduced franchise we may as well exclude everyone that is affiliated to a submitter (perhaps outside of the marketing talks, and who goes to them?). That would certainly solve the inherent bias issues whilst also minimising dross. Roland On 19 May 2016 11:32 pm, "Doug Hellmann" <doug(a)doughellmann.com> wrote: > Excerpts from Florian Haas's message of 2016-05-19 10:00:25 +0200: > > Hi Lana! > > > > On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:23 AM, Lana Brindley > > <openstack(a)lanabrindley.com> wrote: > > > I'm actually really starting to like Florian's proposed method, with > one exception: I don't like the idea of limiting it to talk submitters. The > reason I say this is that, before I was a PTL, I submitted talks to every > summit. That stopped when I became a PTL because, quite simply, I spend > most of my time running sessions in the Design Summit, only popping over to > the main conference for the talks I absolutely don't want to miss. I think > by limiting the voting to only people submitting talks, you will miss the > voice of people who deliberately *don't* submit a talk, because they're > massively invested in other aspects of the conference, especially those on > the more technical side of the house. > > > > > > Perhaps, instead of limiting it to talk submitters, maybe make it > available to a different subset: people who have attended previously, maybe? > > > > Hmmm. Well I'm afraid limiting talk votes to talk submitters is > > exactly what makes the proposed approach meaningful. :) > > > > If you have a minute, please consider reviewing Prof. Merrifield's > > remarks in the video when Brady asks his question starting with "call > > me a cynic", about https://youtu.be/7c0CoXFApnM?t=6m25s — this is > > exactly the part that makes this system self-policing, and it goes out > > the window if your own proposal isn't at stake. > > > > Side note, if your assessment badly disagrees with what everyone else > > has been thinking about a proposal, then this is not necessarily > > because you're naughty and you want to game the system — you may just > > be a shoddy reviewer who went over their reviewed proposals in a rush > > whereas everyone else gave them more time. That, too, is something > > that the system *should* penalize, because it ensures the quality of > > the review process. > > > > There is one other criticism to this, which is the opposite: what if > > I'm being *extremely* diligent and I detect an issue that no-one else > > detects? This is addressed here: https://youtu.be/bplncn4xC74?t=1m48s > > (tl;dw: have public, anonymized free-form comments available to all > > reviewers). > > > > At any rate though, I can't think of a way to do this that does *not* > > make the group of reviewers identical with the group of submitters. > > And quite frankly, I quite like it as it is, considering the fact that > > the proposed system forces everyone not only to think "how would I > > rank this", but also "how would *others* rank this", which is exactly > > what you want for the benefit of the much greater group of conference > > attendees (as opposed to speakers). > > > > What are your thoughts on that? > > > > Cheers, > > Florian > > > > I feel like this system assumes bad faith on the part of the > contributor (speaker, reviewer, and voter), and tries to enforce > good behavior through rules and technology. I would rather we have > a more public way of selecting track chairs and then have faith in > them to evaluate talks objectively for relevance and quality, sharing > guidance and feedback as part of the process. > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > Community mailing list > Community(a)lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community >

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Re: [openstack-community] Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit
by Doug Hellmann 19 May '16

19 May '16

Sorry, I missed the reply-all button. > On May 19, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug(a)doughellmann.com> wrote: > > Excerpts from Florian Haas's message of 2016-05-19 15:41:47 +0200: >> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Doug Hellmann <doug(a)doughellmann.com> wrote: >>> EuroPython limits voting to conference attendees. I don't know how much >>> the votes factor into talk selection, but I could ask someone on the >>> program committee if that would be useful. >> >> For clarity: is that _previous_ conference attendees, or do they >> require people to sign up while the conference program is still >> completely blank? The latter would seem to me like making people buy >> the cat in the bag, which would be fine for a grassroots conference >> but strikes me as a bit inappropriate for the huge event that the >> Summit has become. >> >> Cheers, >> Florian > > It's a community conference, and as with ours some percentage of > the attendees know they will be coming no matter what talks are > scheduled. Talk submitters are included, since I guess they assume if > you're submitting a talk you're likely to attend. > > https://ep2016.europython.eu/en/talk-voting/ > > Doug

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Re: [openstack-community] Choosing track chairs (Was: Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit)
by Tim Bell 18 May '16

18 May '16

Claire, Could you clarify the selection and communication of the track chairs for the summit ? Given that the community voting is a suggestion to the chairs, this role is also key in finding an interesting and varied summit. (BTW, I appreciate the debate on both this and the birthday celebrations which are also regular conversation topics) Tim From: Claire Massey <claire(a)openstack.org> Date: Tuesday 17 May 2016 at 21:40 To: "Community(a)lists.openstack.org" <Community(a)lists.openstack.org> Subject: [openstack-community] Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit Hi everyone, For the past few Summits, we've received mixed feedback about having the community vote on proposed sessions as part of the call for speakers process. Historically, after the call for speakers closes, we publish all submitted sessions for community voting before the track chairs review them. The track chairs then choose how much weight to put on the voting resuls, if any, because they make the ultimate decision about which sessions are selected. More info on Track Chairs can be found at the bottom of this email. With the growing number of speaking submissions (we had 1,300 for Austin), some community members have expressed concerns about social media channels and email getting spammed during the week of voting. We also think many community members are unclear as to how much the votes weigh on the final decision. For example, some think that if someone campaigns for votes or asks their colleagues to vote, the session will likely be accepted (which may not be the case). We would like to propose removing voting from the selection process for the October 2016 Barcelona Summit, but want to get your input before making a final decision. Our thinking is that by removing voting from the process, we will: - Save valuable time during the overall Summit programming process, which should allow us to publish the final agenda and notify speakers sooner - Allow our development teams more time to focus on improving the mobile app and web schedule developed during the last Summit cycle - Reduce the spam and noise around voting, so we don't cause Twitter fatigue before we're promoting the final agenda and key themes - Level the playing field for speakers from startups, new community members, etc. who may not have an established network in the community for voting We initially started the voting process for good reasons and we do think there's value, but we're reaching a point where the costs are starting to outweigh the benefits. We'd like to get your input before we open the call for speakers in early June for the Barcelona Summit. Thanks, Claire Track Chair Info Track Chairs are subject matter experts who review submissions to their particular track, for example "storage" or "cloud applications." There are typically 3-4 chairs per track who review and collaboratively decide which presentations are ultimately accepted for inclusion on the final agenda. The Foundation strives to recruit Track Chairs from a diverse set of companies, regions, roles in the community (i.e., contributing developers, users and business leaders) and areas of expertise. Information on how to nominate yourself or someone else to serve as a track chair for the Barcelona Summit will be published when the call for speakers goes live in early June. For reference, here's information on the Track Chairs from the Austin Summit: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Austin_Summit_Track_Chairs and https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/categories/selection-process.

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[openstack-community] Ireland OpenStack Day 2016
by Duarte Cardoso, Igor 18 May '16

18 May '16

Greetings again OpenStack community, As published about 2 months ago [1], the first ever official Ireland OpenStack Day will take place on the 10th of June, 2016, in the Marker Hotel, Dublin, Ireland [2]. This is a great opportunity to meet the OpenStack Foundation chief executive, industry leaders, end users and active community contributors/core developers, and share learnings! The program is almost finalized, but we still have 2x twenty-minute open speaking slots for end users of OpenStack. If you are interested in being one of these speakers, please contact [3]. Ireland OpenStack Day is a sanctioned official OpenStack Foundation supported event. For more information, check out the official website at [4] or follow us on Twitter @OpenStackIrlDay [5]. [1] http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2016-March/001452.html [2] http://openstackdayireland.com/location-3 [3] haidee.mcmahon(a)intel.com<mailto:haidee.mcmahon@intel.com> [4] http://openstackdayireland.com [5] https://twitter.com/OpenStackIrlDay Best regards, Igor.

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[openstack-community] Proposal to Remove Community Voting from the OpenStack Summit Session Selection Process
by Gary Kevorkian (gkevorki) 18 May '16

18 May '16

As a community member and former track chair, I see pluses and minuses to this proposal. To be honest, I can't say I'd be in favor of completely removing the voting by community members. That being said, I do think the session selection process could use an overhaul. I made this suggestion once before but it didn't get much traction so I'll give it another shot... Instead of exposing the community to, using the ATX summit as an example, 1,300 talks for open voting, what if the track chairs did a first pass on sifting through the talks in their respective tracks to remove the wheat from the chaff, so to speak? Then, take that shortened list of talks to open voting. You could reduce the amount of time open for voting since there would be fewer sessions for community members to review. Right now the pre-voting review by the track chairs is just to move talks to other tracks if it's believed it belongs somewhere else. There's no dropping talks at that point. Just a suggestion. As a track chair, I did find the voting results somewhat helpful in making my final track choices. In the long run, my gut tells me that the community doesn't want the Summit agenda set by just a few people. They'll want to have a voice. But there may be a better way to achieve that result. My $.02. [http://www-author.cisco.com/c/dam/cec/organizations/gmcc/services-tools/sig…] Gary Kevorkian MARKETING COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER - EVENTS Marketing and Communications gkevorki(a)cisco.com<mailto:gkevorki@cisco.com> Tel: +3237912058 Cisco.com<http://www.cisco.com> [http://www.cisco.com/assets/swa/img/thinkbeforeyouprint.gif] Think before you print. This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. Please click here<http://www.cisco.com/web/about/doing_business/legal/cri/index.html> for Company Registration Information.

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[openstack-community] OpenStack Days Texas Call for Speakers and Registration Now Open
by Melvin Hillsman 17 May '16

17 May '16

Hey everyone, We are gearing up for OpenStack Days Texas. We have a limited number of seats and slots for speakers. Be sure you are spreading the word as well to make this a great first time around for the event! Call for Speakers: http://openstacktexas.com/call-for-speakers/ Registration/Tickets: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-days-texas-tickets-25500152643 Cheers and good luck; hope to see you in the place! Kind regards, Houston OpenStack Meetup

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