[openstack-community] We are OpenStack, but who is We?

Tristan Goode tristan at aptira.com
Fri Mar 11 06:55:49 UTC 2016


I'm just suggesting that perhaps the whole system could be approached in
another way. That defaulting to inclusion for anyone, and letting people
apply for the free tickets might be a better way.

What about a form with some checkboxes, say one for "I commit code" and if
you check that box then it goes off and checks your git thingy. It has
another check box for docs, it goes to check what it needs to for that.
Automation and all that right? But most importantly, it has a free form
text field that allows someone that doesn't "fit" to apply for a free
ticket. That's "open". Be inclusive, don't predefine constraints that
exclude contributions perhaps none of us have considered.

BTW I wasn't propagating any lie about any broad developer centric
mentality, but a few people still seem to have a developer centric
mentality. As an example, I think the suggestion from a few developers to
split the summit benefits a few developers to the detriment of the whole
community.

Cheers
Tristan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Maffulli [mailto:stefano at openstack.org]
> Sent: Friday, 4 March 2016 4:38 AM
> To: community at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [openstack-community] We are OpenStack, but who is We?
>
> On 03/02/2016 04:08 PM, Tristan Goode wrote:
> > And there lies the problem. That old time developer centric mentality
> > that aggressively excludes the wonderful rest of OpenStack.
>
> This is BS Tristan! I would expect more from a former board member.
>
> Since very early in OpenStack, and at least from when I came on board
> (during Diablo cycle) contributions to documentation have been
considered
> at the same level of code contributions. You don't need to be a
developer to
> write documentation, and contributions to manuals grant ATC status. Same
> goes for translations, where members of l10n team get a free ATC invite.
> Operators have received free ATC codes too...
>
> I am left to think that you're insisting on propagating a lie about a
non-
> existent "developer centric mentality" or you're ignorant on OpenStack
> community practice. Neither of which is a good scenario from a community
> leader.
>
> And you're still not providing any help in addressing the issue: there
are
> objective, *practical* obstacles to provide ATC tickets for anybody
outside of
> git.
>
> Last time I checked, there was no way to pull the list of active
translators; but
> now that the community migrated off of transifex, it should be doable...
>
> Do you volunteer, since you care so much about this issue? Or provide at
> least some ideas on how to objectively recognize contributions from
others,
> outside of git.
>
> More doing, less venting, please.
>
> /stef
>
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