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> On Mar 13, 2019, at 9:13 AM, VAN WYK, RYAN L <rv6848 at att.com> wrote:
> 
> Jonathan, is the intention to have the TSC weigh in on every Pilot project as a point of process, or rather to have a mechanism for them to provide the OSF staff supporting the project direct feedback where the TSC has observed the work product of the project itself (code, wiki, website, summit presentations etc.)?
> 
> Given the TSC does not govern these projects, the former might not make sense.

It’s an optional opportunity for the governance bodies of confirmed projects to share information with the Board when new projects come up for confirmation. The Board definitely holds the final decision, but I think that the TC or (other groups) can provide useful input and perspective, especially in cases where there is a tighter connection between new projects and existing projects. In my earlier email, I mentioned the example of Zuul, which for most of its life lived under TC governance and still today is a critical component of the development process for the projects the TC governs. While the TC will not have the final decision on Zuul’s confirmation, it could provide a valuable perspective on the importance of Zuul as a project and any thoughts on the Zuul’s confirmation as a standalone top level project.

To your other point, we on staff currently do get quite a bit of feedback on the pilot projects. It’s been very helpful and useful and we in turn pass it along and try to work with the projects directly. As we make some updates to our online information around the OSF and pilot projects, I like your idea of making an explicit request/mechanism for that kind of feedback to happen on an ongoing basis. I always prefer to get feedback sooner in the process while there’s more time to act on it.

Jonathan


> Thanks,
> 
> Ryan van Wyk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 5:39 PM
> To: Jonathan Bryce <jonathan at openstack.org>; foundation at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] establishing channel for optional feedback re: pilot projects
> 
> Jonathan Bryce <jonathan at openstack.org> writes:
> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2019, at 7:40 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> <Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> Mohammed,
>>>> Is the goal to have a doc where we collect feedback per pilot project from Board? TC? Community?
>>> 
>>> We were asked specifically about the process the TC preferred for 
>>> being involved in the evaluation of new OIP applications, in order to 
>>> handle the step where the leadership groups of other confirmed 
>>> projects have a chance to provide their input.
>> 
>> Thanks for chiming in here Doug. This specific request is to the TC as the process allows for official input from other confirmed projects’ governance bodies when a new project is being considered for confirmation. This could be anything from a simple email to me and Alan, a formal resolution from the TC, or even a decision to not have an opinion. Since we’re just setting up this process, I was hoping to hear how the TC would like to be involved so we can make that part of the workflow for each of the projects that come up.
>> 
>> We will be having the next Board meeting on April 8 (4 weeks from yesterday), where we will do an initial review of pilot projects that wish to apply. At this point, that could include Kata Containers and Zuul, although we are just starting to work with the projects on their portion of the confirmation process. I think if the TC wishes to provide feedback on either of those projects, it would be ideal to have it ahead of the April 8th meeting.
>> 
>> Jonathan
> 
> Can you give us an idea of what format that review meeting will take? Is the team going to put together a slide deck, for example? Having whatever materials they will be presenting available for the TC to review seems like a good start, although I don't know whether that's possible given the current schedule.
> 
> What sorts of input would the board be interested in hearing? Are there specific questions, or is it more a matter of looking for general comments?
> 
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> Doug
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