[OpenStack Foundation] [Foundation Board] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign

Sean McGinnis sean.mcginnis at gmail.com
Tue Dec 10 16:01:55 UTC 2019


Thanks Allison. And thanks Graham for raising this in the community.

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 10:53 Allison Randal <allison at lohutok.net> wrote:

> A few more news posts about the topic:
>
> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/
>
>
> https://gizmodo.com/private-equity-ghouls-buy-non-profit-that-handles-org-1839860118
>
>
> http://blogs.harvard.edu/sj/2019/11/23/a-tale-of-icann-and-regulatory-capture-the-dot-org-heist/
>
>
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/11/private-equity-firm-buys-org-domain-months-after-icann-lifted-price-caps/
>
>
> https://medium.com/@jacobmalthouse/in-which-i-explain-why-all-of-andrew-sullivans-reasons-for-selling-org-are-wrong-449997d42cac
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50515786
>
> HTH,
> Allison
>
> On 11/26/19 12:33 PM, Graham Hayes wrote:
> > On 26/11/2019 16:44, Alan Clark wrote:
> >> Who owns savedotorg.org?  I see EFF references on the page but when I
> look it up the domain it appears to all be "REDACTED".
> >
> > From https://savedotorg.org/index.php/about/ - it is ran by
> > NTEN (https://www.nten.org/)
> >
> > It is supported by the EFF (among others)
> >
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Graham Hayes [mailto:gr at ham.ie]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:35 AM
> >>> To: Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
> >>> Cc: openstack-discuss at lists.openstack.org; foundation-
> >>> board at lists.openstack.org; foundation at lists.openstack.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
> >>> community support to the savedotorg campaign
> >>>
> >>> On 26/11/2019 16:16, Jimmy McArthur wrote:
> >>>> From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like
> ICAAN just
> >>> crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Jimmy
> >>>
> >>> My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the
> owners
> >>> into halting the sale.
> >>>
> >>> I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days
> after they
> >>> were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and raising our
> voices, this
> >>> could help convince the current owners of PIR (who is ISOC) to
> re-consider the
> >>> idea.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <amy at demarco.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the
> other projects.
> >>> I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amy Marrich (spotz)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <
> sean.mcginnis at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey All,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there
> >>>>>>> is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the
> >>>>>>> works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non
> >>>>>>> profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
> >>>>>>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses
> >>>>>>> a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
> >>>>>>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should
> >>>>>>> use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Graham
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add
> >>>>>> their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to
> >>>>>> the list of organizations.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sean
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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