[OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup APAC 2015-08-27

Roland Chan roland at aptira.com
Wed Sep 30 00:46:03 UTC 2015


Lets wrap up all changes in the WG meeting. I'll try to attend.

​​
Roland

On 30 September 2015 at 07:57, Lauren Sell <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:

> Roland wanted to close the survey around October 14th, so we could get you
> the data by the end of that week (which would give you a little more than a
> week to analyze it before Tokyo).
>
> If we get the survey distributed by the end of this week, that will give
> respondents a little more than 10 days, which should be plenty for this
> number of questions.
>
> Does the Diversity working group want to discuss and finalize the
> questions in the next meeting, and then let me know any changes or give us
> the green light to distribute?
>
> We’re also ready to pull the trigger sooner if you can reach consensus on
> the final questions via the mailing list.
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
> wrote:
>
> Lauren – I’ll look for some examples for questions #5 and #6 and send
> along.
>
> Do you have an idea of when we’ll have access to the survey data? Ideally
> before Tokyo.
> Thanks
> Carol
>
> *From:* Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org <lauren at openstack.org>]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2015 8:47 PM
> *To:* Roland Chan
> *Cc:* Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
> APAC 2015-08-27
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I set up the survey in surveymonkey based on the draft from the diversity
> working group.
>
> Please review and provide any feedback before the Foundation staff helps
> distribute the survey this week:
>
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRCdI%3d
>
> A couple of comments:
> - I did not include the question asking respondents to specify Technical
> Committee / Board / Foundation Staff, because it would be too easy to tie
> answers back to a specific person (i.e. there is one woman on the technical
> committee and one person who lives in Ireland on the board). Happy to
> discuss further, but if we want to do something along these lines, perhaps
> we just say just ask whether or not they are an ATC?
> - I went ahead and aligned the responses to the gender question #4 with
> how we’ve historically gathered that data
> - I think questions #5 and 6 could also benefit from structured responses
> to help analyze the data, but I’m not sure where to get a “standard” list.
> Of course, we would provide the options “prefer not to say” and “let me
> tell you”
> - I took a stab at adding some reference points for question #9, but am
> open to feedback here. The 1-10 response seemed pretty subjective
>
> Finally, what do you think about including some kind of satisfaction
> question, such as how satisfied / included / influential they feel working
> in the community? It might be interesting to correlate that feedback with
> the data.
>
> Ideally, we’d like to lock and begin promoting the survey in the next two
> days, because the diversity working group wants to gather responses around
> October 14th.
>
> Thanks,
> Lauren
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 6:26 PM, Roland Chan <roland at aptira.com> wrote:
>
> I'm actually interested in subjective answers to this question. That is:
>
> Does the respondent feel that they are (not) engaged?
>
> Having said that, now that we're adopting a census-like approach, it makes
> sense to ask the respondent for more detail about their "position" in the
> community (ATC, PTL, TC etc). I will add those questions, thanks for
> pushing me to it.
>
> Roland
>
>
> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:29 Eoghan Glynn <eglynn at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm working with Lauren on the distribution of the survey, and with the
> > i18n people on translation. I'm targeting sending out in w/c 27/9, so I
> > would want to wrap up any changes early next week. Allowing for thinking
> > time and discussion, feedback by the end of this week would be best.
>
> In addition to my previous feedback on the religion and educational
> attainment, I would also recommend changing this question:
>
>   "Please rate your level of engagement with, or participation in, the
>    OpenStack community"
>
> to avoid a 1-10 scale in the answer, since it's not grounded and is too
> subjective (one person's 6 is another person's 9).
>
> Instead I'd recommend anchoring the question in well-defined categories,
> e.g. as suggested up-thread:
>
> Involvement in OpenStack (tick all that apply):
>
>  * do you hold an elected position in the governance structure of
> OpenStack?
>    (Foundation board member, TC member, and/or PTL)
>
>  * are you a core reviewer on an OpenStack project?
>
>  * were you an Active Technical Contributor over the Liberty release cycle?
>
>  * were you an Active Technical Contributor over any prior release cycle?
>
>  * have you attended one or more OpenStack summits?
>
>  * is working on OpenStack your fulltime job?
>    (either in the community or in an internally-facing role)
>
>  * ... etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Eoghan
>
> > Roland
> >
> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 02:19 Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Roland – When is the deadline for comments?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Carol
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *From:* Roland Chan [mailto:roland at aptira.com]
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 15, 2015 5:09 PM
> > > *To:* Geoff O'Callaghan; Rochelle Grober
> > >
> > >
> > > *Cc:* Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> > > *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity
> Workgroup
> > > APAC 2015-08-27
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is the Next Step, at least as far as the work plan for the group
> is
> > > concerned.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We're establishing a baseline view of the community. From that we may
> > > learn new things about the community that change our focus areas (or
> not)
> > > at which point we can start thinking about what to actually do.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hopefully we can garner input on what we can do through forums like
> this,
> > > sessions at the summit etc.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Roland.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 at 19:41 Geoff O'Callaghan <
> geoffocallaghan at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/09/2015 8:44 AM, "Rochelle Grober" <rochelle.grober at huawei.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thank you Roland, for doing this.
> > > >
> > >
> > > +1 as well from me.
> > >
> > > The way i see a diverse community is we cater for people's ability to
> > > contribute to openstack.   Its not really a platform for anything
> beyond
> > > that.
> > > So to me the questions should focus on what we can do as a community to
> > > encourage people to participate and perhaps that is as complex as the
> > > questions need to be.
> > >
> > >
> >
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