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My understanding of the current thinking about diversity surveys is the
"select from list" + other can be interpreted as exclusionary. I don't
imagine anyone likes being the "Other".

Post processing will be a bit of a chore with free text entry, but not too
onerous I hope.

Roland

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 at 00:38 Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
wrote:

> Great progress Anne, Thanks for the update.
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> For both Gender and Religion, I wonder if we should include 5 options,
> followed by an entry field for people to make their own entries. My
> thinking is this may make it easier to correlate and process the data from
> the survey…assuming we get more that 30 responses this could be helpful.
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> Carol
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> *From:* Anne Gentle [mailto:annegentle at justwriteclick.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:31 AM
> *To:* Roland Chan
> *Cc:* foundation at lists.openstack.org; Stefano Maffulli
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> *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
> APAC 2015-08-27
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> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Roland Chan <roland at aptira.com> wrote:
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> I've added all the categories identified in the 3 phases that were
> previously agreed, and altered the questions somewhat. There are now 10
> questions. I'm not keen to try to add any supplementary questions.
>
> Where I think we need to move beyond binary or simple data (country, age),
> I have stayed with free text entry.
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> I haven't yet written any introductory blurb about privacy protection, the
> optional nature of the survey all the questions.
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> Similarly, I haven't yet addressed any issues around how the survey should
> be targeted. I'm leaning towards a surveying a subset of the population,
> and trying to provide an incentive to participate (don't ask, haven't got
> one yet), so as to reduce self-selection bias. Anyone with professional
> knowledge in this area please speak up.
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> I'm unlikely to make the next meeting, so I'm afraid I can only discuss
> via email. We're running a little behind the original schedule, but I hope
> to be able to engage the Foundation to commence the process of executing
> the survey by the end of next week.
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> One area I always wonder about is English as a second language, does it
> hamper efforts to get engaged in the community? I suspect so and would like
> to find solutions for further inclusion.
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> Can that be added if the goal of the survey is to identify areas where
> underrepresented people may be struggling?
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> Also, just to comment on the survey sampling, we got less than 30
> responses to our Women of OpenStack survey, so keep it in mind that we may
> not get meaningful data that you can act upon. We may need to dig into the
> Foundation data and enhance those profiles instead, if the goal is "find
> ways to reach underrepresented groups."
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> Thanks,
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> Anne
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> Cheers,
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> Roland
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> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 11:42 Johnston, Tamara <Tamara.Johnston at emc.com>
> wrote:
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> The Diversity WG is actively working on many things, including moving
> forward with our Data Diversity Plan that includes analyzing what, where
> and how we’re currently collecting this information, determining where to
> store this information, defining how to enable the core team to analyze and
> report on this data, so on and so forth.
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> I support the stance the Foundation has taken in the past, which was to
> provide an open text field (and/or option to select “prefer not to say”)
> that enables a community member to, if they so choose, share their
> identity.  While we’re trying to better understand the makeup of our
> community we cannot limit the options they can choose from or ask what will
> likely be perceived as personal questions (do you identify as a gender
> minority).  We can either choose to use an open text field / prefer not to
> say approach or take the hybrid approach that Facebook has taken where they
> list 50+ identities but still have an open text field.  I suggest we stick
> with what the Foundation has been doing, as this will enable our community
> members to decide if they want to share their sexual identity and they’re
> not boxed into choosing X, Y, or Z.
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> Regards,
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> *Tamara Johnston*  |  Cloud Portfolio  |  EMC Global Services  |  (C)
> 1-510-398-9114  |  (E) tamara.johnston at emc.com
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> *From: *Roland Chan <roland at aptira.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 5:15 PM
> *To: *Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>, "
> foundation at lists.openstack.org" <foundation at lists.openstack.org>
>
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> *Subject: *Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
> APAC 2015-08-27
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> The existing data is being handled by another sub-team on the Diversity
> WG. I'm certainly keen to see it, but getting it isn't my focus.
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> Regarding the opt-out capability, my intent is that every question is
> optional. The survey itself will require a one page intro where we address
> this and other privacy related issues.
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> Roland
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> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 02:39 Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>
> wrote:
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> On 09/01/2015 08:53 AM, Amy Marrich wrote:
> > I had sent this to a smaller section of the group but it deals with how
> > the University of California asks the gender question and also includes
> > sexual orientation.
> >
> >
> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/28/university-california-offers-six-choices-for-gender-identity/
> >
> > We may be able to get a hold of their survey as a possible guideline.
>
> At the beginning of 2014[1], the OpenStack Foundations started asking
> its members to specify their gender. The intention was to start
> measuring that aspect of diversity in order to improve it. Since the
> gender issue is extremely new to society, there are lots of acronyms and
> constant fluxes of differences among the non-binary genders. We decided,
> after long debate and research, to use an open text form to specify
> gender because that's the most flexible one. Any other system we found,
> including the one from UC above, had criticism because the debate even
> among scholars is not set.
>
> You may have noticed that the form to subscribe to the Summit for
> example asks gender offering 4 options:
>
> - male
> - female
> - let me tell you
>    > open form
>
> (I noticed now it's missing the very valuable 4th option "prefer not to
> say", which I think may be useful to have even if the response is itself
> optional)
>
> Has anybody looked at the historic data about gender from the members
> database?
>
> /stef
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> [1] A summary of that conversation is on my blog
>
> http://maffulli.net/2014/02/05/tracking-gender-diversity-in-the-openstack-developer-community/
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> Anne Gentle
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