[OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup APAC 2015-08-27

Egle Sigler egle.sigler at rackspace.com
Fri Oct 2 19:40:42 UTC 2015


Awesome, thank you Lauren!!

On 10/2/15, 2:38 PM, "Lauren Sell" <lauren at openstack.org> wrote:

>Sounds great - happy to get this across the finish line!
>
>We queued up an email to the Foundation Individual Member database, which
>will be distributed Monday at 7:00 am UTC. The deadline to fill it out
>will be October 14th at 11:59 pm UTC, and we will deliver results to the
>working group by October 16th.
>
>If you¹d like to help promote the survey, we will also queue up the
>following tweet from the @openstack handle just after the email goes out:
>
>	#OpenStack Foundation Members: Check your email for a quick survey to
>help support diversity in our community!
>
>I would encourage you to retweet this message rather than posting the
>actual survey link publicly, to make sure we are gathering feedback from
>Foundation members.
>
>It think it would also make sense for the diversity wg leaders to post it
>on the OpenStack mailing lists once the survey is distributed.
>
>Thanks!
>Lauren
>
>
>> On Oct 1, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Egle Sigler <egle.sigler at rackspace.com>
>>wrote:
>> 
>> My initial reaction was that the questions were the same, but then I
>>read again and this time paid attention.
>> 
>> Overall, I really like how the survey turned out, I do hope we get a
>>good response rate to the survey.
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for spending the time creating and improving the
>>survey!!!
>> 
>> -Egle
>> 
>> From: "Barrett, Carol L" <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
>> Date: Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 6:01 PM
>> To: Roland Chan <roland at aptira.com>
>> Cc: "foundation at lists.openstack.org" <foundation at lists.openstack.org>
>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
>>APAC 2015-08-27
>> 
>> Works for me!
>>  
>> From: Roland Chan [mailto:roland at aptira.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:59 PM
>> To: Barrett, Carol L
>> Cc: Lauren Sell; Tom Fifield; foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
>>APAC 2015-08-27
>>  
>> Nope! ;) But then again I've been reading diversity surveys rather a
>>lot recently.
>>  
>> I like the survey. Sorry I didn't make the meeting, but I'm happy to
>>run the survey as it stands.
>> 
>> Roland Chan
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>> On 2 October 2015 at 08:53, Barrett, Carol L
>><carol.l.barrett at intel.com> wrote:
>> Lauren ­ I think this looks good. Questions 10 & 11 are interesting, I
>>was initially confused by them, but after re-reading them understood the
>>difference.  Did anyone else have a similar reaction?
>> Thanks
>> Carol
>>  
>> From: Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:04 PM
>> To: Tom Fifield
>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
>>APAC 2015-08-27
>>  
>> I made updates to the survey based on feedback in the diversity working
>>group meeting today. I know not everyone was able to attend, so please
>>review and provide any final feedback. We would like to get this wrapped
>>up in the next 24 hours and distributed Monday morning ET at the latest.
>>  
>> 
>>https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT
>>9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRC
>>dI%3d
>>  
>> Meeting notes for reference:
>>http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-diversity/%23openstac
>>k-diversity.2015-10-01.log.html
>>  
>> Thanks,
>> Lauren
>>  
>>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>>>  
>>> On 30/09/15 02:54, Eoghan Glynn wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Alexis Lee <lxsli at hpe.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lauren Sell said on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:47:04PM -0500:
>>>> 
>>>> Please review and provide any feedback before the Foundation staff
>>>>helps
>>>> distribute the survey this week:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4k
>>>>oT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQV
>>>>iJRCdI%3d
>>>> 
>>>> Q6: Maybe "What racial and/or ethnic group(s) do you belong to?". Bit
>>>>of
>>>> a mouthful but it's more inclusive of mixed race. It's so hard to
>>>>phrase
>>>> this question well when the whole concept of race is so simplistic :(
>>> 
>>> Sounds good
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Q7: s/have you/you have/
>>> 
>>> Got it
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Q8: I'd slice by 10 years above 25, just to limit the options, but this
>>> is OK.
>>> 
>>> I also thought it resulted in a lot of options, but I wasn¹t sure if
>>>there
>>> was a particular reason the diversity working group wanted more
>>>granular
>>> data.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Q9: this is frequency rather than level of engagement but I'm being
>>> picky :)
>>> 
>>> I¹ll reword the question a bit.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Q11: Is the word 'speak' prejudicial? Some people find English easier
>>>to
>>> read and write than speak. Maybe "How do you find working in English?
>>> Difficult / OK / No problem².
>>> 
>>> Agree
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For religion, this seems a good start. There's a clear boundary around
>>> 5% of world population. I was initially concerned "Chinese folk
>>> religion" was a bit insulting but (from 2mins further reading on
>>> Wikipedia) it seems to be the accepted terminology.
>>> 
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions
>>> 
>>> For the sexuality and religion questions, I would personally feel more
>>> comfortable asking something along the lines of "do you feel that your
>>> sexual orientation or religious beliefs have adversely impacted your
>>>ability
>>> to participate in our community?² and/or ³how have you seen other
>>> communities / organizations successfully create an inclusive
>>>environment?² I
>>> think the current questions risk being intrusive or viewed as
>>>irrelevant,
>>> and may not result in actionable data.
>>> 
>>> Yes, that.
>>> 
>>> Totally agree, especially on the religion question.
>>> 
>>> Knowing that someone objected to a community event being held too
>>>close to
>>> Passover (as has happened with PyCon) is useful, actionable
>>>information.
>>> 
>>> Whereas knowing the number of community members who are self-declared
>>> adherents of a particular religion is neither useful nor actionable,
>>>and
>>> IMHO not really any of our business.
>>> 
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> I've been feeling vexed about the sexuality question for a while -
>>>having brought up the "and minority sexuality" wording in the past
>>>couple of meetings. I would feel a lot more comfortable if the question
>>>were to be changed to something more practical as Lauren and Eoghan
>>>have recommended.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Eoghan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Using the opportunity to gather some
>>> real feedback about any barriers in the community, as well as
>>>actionable
>>> recommendations seems like a more desirable outcome for the working
>>>group.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Race is much more difficult. I found the "recommendations" here
>>> interesting: http://www.aaanet.org/gvt/ombdraft.htm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - I took a stab at adding some reference points for question #9, but
>>> am open to feedback here. The 1-10 response seemed pretty subjective
>>> 
>>> I agree and I like your options. I'd just add "full-time". This
>>>question
>>> seems to make any ATC-related question redundant, which is good.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alexis (lxsli)
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