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From: Roland Chan [mailto:roland at aptira.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:59 PM
To: Barrett, Carol L
Cc: Lauren Sell; Tom Fifield; foundation at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup APAC 2015-08-27

Nope! ;) But then again I've been reading diversity surveys rather a lot recently.

I like the survey. Sorry I didn't make the meeting, but I'm happy to run the survey as it stands.

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On 2 October 2015 at 08:53, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com<mailto:carol.l.barrett at intel.com>> wrote:
Lauren – I think this looks good. Questions 10 & 11 are interesting, I was initially confused by them, but after re-reading them understood the difference.  Did anyone else have a similar reaction?
Thanks
Carol

From: Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org<mailto:lauren at openstack.org>]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:04 PM
To: Tom Fifield
Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org<mailto:foundation at lists.openstack.org>
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup APAC 2015-08-27

I made updates to the survey based on feedback in the diversity working group meeting today. I know not everyone was able to attend, so please review and provide any final feedback. We would like to get this wrapped up in the next 24 hours and distributed Monday morning ET at the latest.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRCdI%3d<https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt+qvcrDczCC7KJ/y6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO+aI5VynQViJRCdI=>

Meeting notes for reference: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-diversity/%23openstack-diversity.2015-10-01.log.html

Thanks,
Lauren

On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org<mailto:tom at openstack.org>> wrote:

On 30/09/15 02:54, Eoghan Glynn wrote:


On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Alexis Lee <lxsli at hpe.com<mailto:lxsli at hpe.com>> wrote:

Lauren Sell said on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:47:04PM -0500:
Please review and provide any feedback before the Foundation staff helps
distribute the survey this week:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRCdI%3d

Q6: Maybe "What racial and/or ethnic group(s) do you belong to?". Bit of
a mouthful but it's more inclusive of mixed race. It's so hard to phrase
this question well when the whole concept of race is so simplistic :(

Sounds good

Q7: s/have you/you have/

Got it

Q8: I'd slice by 10 years above 25, just to limit the options, but this
is OK.

I also thought it resulted in a lot of options, but I wasn’t sure if there
was a particular reason the diversity working group wanted more granular
data.

Q9: this is frequency rather than level of engagement but I'm being
picky :)

I’ll reword the question a bit.

Q11: Is the word 'speak' prejudicial? Some people find English easier to
read and write than speak. Maybe "How do you find working in English?
Difficult / OK / No problem”.

Agree

For religion, this seems a good start. There's a clear boundary around
5% of world population. I was initially concerned "Chinese folk
religion" was a bit insulting but (from 2mins further reading on
Wikipedia) it seems to be the accepted terminology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions

For the sexuality and religion questions, I would personally feel more
comfortable asking something along the lines of "do you feel that your
sexual orientation or religious beliefs have adversely impacted your ability
to participate in our community?” and/or “how have you seen other
communities / organizations successfully create an inclusive environment?” I
think the current questions risk being intrusive or viewed as irrelevant,
and may not result in actionable data.

Yes, that.

Totally agree, especially on the religion question.

Knowing that someone objected to a community event being held too close to
Passover (as has happened with PyCon) is useful, actionable information.

Whereas knowing the number of community members who are self-declared
adherents of a particular religion is neither useful nor actionable, and
IMHO not really any of our business.

+1

I've been feeling vexed about the sexuality question for a while - having brought up the "and minority sexuality" wording in the past couple of meetings. I would feel a lot more comfortable if the question were to be changed to something more practical as Lauren and Eoghan have recommended.

Cheers,
Eoghan

Using the opportunity to gather some
real feedback about any barriers in the community, as well as actionable
recommendations seems like a more desirable outcome for the working group.

Race is much more difficult. I found the "recommendations" here
interesting: http://www.aaanet.org/gvt/ombdraft.htm

- I took a stab at adding some reference points for question #9, but
am open to feedback here. The 1-10 response seemed pretty subjective

I agree and I like your options. I'd just add "full-time". This question
seems to make any ATC-related question redundant, which is good.


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