[OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup APAC 2015-08-27

Roland Chan roland at aptira.com
Thu Oct 1 22:58:43 UTC 2015


Nope! ;) But then again I've been reading diversity surveys rather a lot
recently.

I like the survey. Sorry I didn't make the meeting, but I'm happy to run
the survey as it stands.


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On 2 October 2015 at 08:53, Barrett, Carol L <carol.l.barrett at intel.com>
wrote:

> Lauren – I think this looks good. Questions 10 & 11 are interesting, I was
> initially confused by them, but after re-reading them understood the
> difference.  Did anyone else have a similar reaction?
> Thanks
> Carol
>
>
>
> *From:* Lauren Sell [mailto:lauren at openstack.org]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:04 PM
> *To:* Tom Fifield
> *Cc:* foundation at lists.openstack.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] re: Diversity Workgroup
> APAC 2015-08-27
>
>
>
> I made updates to the survey based on feedback in the diversity working
> group meeting today. I know not everyone was able to attend, so please
> review and provide any final feedback. We would like to get this wrapped up
> in the next 24 hours and distributed Monday morning ET at the latest.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRCdI%3d
> <https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt+qvcrDczCC7KJ/y6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO+aI5VynQViJRCdI=>
>
>
>
> Meeting notes for reference:
> http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-diversity/%23openstack-diversity.2015-10-01.log.html
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lauren
>
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Tom Fifield <tom at openstack.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 30/09/15 02:54, Eoghan Glynn wrote:
>
>
>
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> On Sep 29, 2015, at 4:37 AM, Alexis Lee <lxsli at hpe.com> wrote:
>
> Lauren Sell said on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:47:04PM -0500:
>
> Please review and provide any feedback before the Foundation staff helps
> distribute the survey this week:
>
>
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/?sm=Ju6YvZHHMOt%2bqvcrDczCC7KJ%2fy6YDf4koT9sM2cSqZ2ggvm1U7uH8CErqYzXNfKmlbDNU0gMLsP8ej5qguQyzWmuGzgO%2baI5VynQViJRCdI%3d
>
>
> Q6: Maybe "What racial and/or ethnic group(s) do you belong to?". Bit of
> a mouthful but it's more inclusive of mixed race. It's so hard to phrase
> this question well when the whole concept of race is so simplistic :(
>
>
> Sounds good
>
>
> Q7: s/have you/you have/
>
>
> Got it
>
>
> Q8: I'd slice by 10 years above 25, just to limit the options, but this
> is OK.
>
>
> I also thought it resulted in a lot of options, but I wasn’t sure if there
> was a particular reason the diversity working group wanted more granular
> data.
>
>
> Q9: this is frequency rather than level of engagement but I'm being
> picky :)
>
>
> I’ll reword the question a bit.
>
>
> Q11: Is the word 'speak' prejudicial? Some people find English easier to
> read and write than speak. Maybe "How do you find working in English?
> Difficult / OK / No problem”.
>
>
> Agree
>
>
> For religion, this seems a good start. There's a clear boundary around
> 5% of world population. I was initially concerned "Chinese folk
> religion" was a bit insulting but (from 2mins further reading on
> Wikipedia) it seems to be the accepted terminology.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups#Largest_religions
>
>
> For the sexuality and religion questions, I would personally feel more
> comfortable asking something along the lines of "do you feel that your
> sexual orientation or religious beliefs have adversely impacted your
> ability
> to participate in our community?” and/or “how have you seen other
> communities / organizations successfully create an inclusive environment?”
> I
> think the current questions risk being intrusive or viewed as irrelevant,
> and may not result in actionable data.
>
>
> Yes, that.
>
> Totally agree, especially on the religion question.
>
> Knowing that someone objected to a community event being held too close to
> Passover (as has happened with PyCon) is useful, actionable information.
>
> Whereas knowing the number of community members who are self-declared
> adherents of a particular religion is neither useful nor actionable, and
> IMHO not really any of our business.
>
>
> +1
>
> I've been feeling vexed about the sexuality question for a while - having
> brought up the "and minority sexuality" wording in the past couple of
> meetings. I would feel a lot more comfortable if the question were to be
> changed to something more practical as Lauren and Eoghan have recommended.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Eoghan
>
>
> Using the opportunity to gather some
> real feedback about any barriers in the community, as well as actionable
> recommendations seems like a more desirable outcome for the working group.
>
>
> Race is much more difficult. I found the "recommendations" here
> interesting: http://www.aaanet.org/gvt/ombdraft.htm
>
>
> - I took a stab at adding some reference points for question #9, but
> am open to feedback here. The 1-10 response seemed pretty subjective
>
>
> I agree and I like your options. I'd just add "full-time". This question
> seems to make any ATC-related question redundant, which is good.
>
>
> Alexis (lxsli)
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