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Monty,
There was nothing subtle in my email to read-in (accusation or otherwise).

 I am simply pointing out that it's worthy to have a forum for
feedback/accountability and to advertise a level of transparency in the
people who are "day-to-day" _managing_ the allocating of valuable resources
that have material impact on the community and contributors. As a
non-profit entity, we are entitled to know that the foundation is
supporting the "community" and not just in-line with those interests who
are funding it or happen to be "linked-in" to it. That is essentially what
differentiates us, outside of specific legal language, from just being an
industry trade organization.


Kyle


On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:

> On 03/28/2015 03:37 PM, Kyle MacDonald wrote:
> > Tristan I absolutely agree that foundation management (inclusive of
> > the board and the foundation management team) through community
> > feedback is essential.
> >
> > In addition may I suggest, where legal and appropriate, that the
> > board publish performance reviews / goals for key leadership within
> > the foundation. I would like to see clear conflict of interest
> > disclosures from all leadership within the foundation (both
> > current/static as well as potential). This is a problem that needs to
> > be addressed as well.
> >
> > It's great companies and individuals can contribute but if you aren't
> > on the good side of the foundation management you can be easily left
> > out or marginalized as they support projects/activities/press that
> > are more "prominent" in their minds counteracting reasons to be
> > supportive. This is now a huge challenge to anyone in our global
> > ecosystem.
>
>
> I would hope that it's no surprise that I am a huge advocate of open and
> transparent dealings, so in general, I am a favor of both collecting
> feedback and publishing all of the things we can publish.
>
> However, that sounds like an accusation of misconduct in the guise of
> suggesting a process or policy be adopted. I can tell you from
> experience that the answer to such issues is not to invent process or
> policy, but rather to confront them in an open and honest manner.
>
> I would also add that one of the reasons we have a foundation staff is
> so that there can be people who CAN make value judgments on a day to day
> basis as to where to orient the foundations efforts. This necessarily
> means that there will be people "left out" from time to time - otherwise
> it would be complete chaos. I have never personally experienced this
> being due to someone "not being on the good side" of a staff member.
>
> If there is a way in which anyone else believes they have been on the
> receiving side of systemic corruption, I would urge that person to raise
> it with one or more of their board members if it seems that raising
> concerns with foundation staff is going nowhere.
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 28, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Chris C. Kemp
> >> <chris.c.kemp at nebula.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Tristan -
> >>
> >> I think that increasing the scope of the questions covered and
> >> generally soliciting more feedback from stakeholders would be
> >> helpful.  I'm supportive of both the discussion, and the ideas you
> >> propose below.
> >>
> >> Best, Chris
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Tristan Goode
> >> [mailto:tristan at aptira.com] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 6:50 PM
> >> To: foundation-board at lists.openstack.org;
> >> Foundation at lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Foundation Board]
> >> April 2 OpenStack Board meeting call for agenda items; Board packet
> >> materials due by Monday March 30th.
> >>
> >> (Putting this out to the Foundation list also for wider input)
> >>
> >> Can I please propose a quick board discussion around improving the
> >> feedback to the organisation, perhaps very easily by adding some
> >> feedback questions to the user survey? Presently there is only one
> >> non-technical question in the survey about what folks hope to see
> >> as priorities or something like that. I'd be hoping to see
> >> questions like...
> >>
> >> 1: The goals for the OpenStack board in 2014 were X, Y and Z. On a
> >> scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is least satisfied and 10 is most
> >> satisfied, how satisfied were you that the board met goal X in
> >> 2014?  1  2  3  4  5  6  7 8  9  10 2: How satisfied were you that
> >> the board met goal Y in 2014? 1  2  3  4  5 6  7  8  9  10 3: How
> >> satisfied were you that the board met goal Z in 2014? 1  2  3  4
> >> 5 6  7  8  9  10
> >>
> >> ...and so on for TC performance, interactions with Foundation
> >> staff, and so on.
> >>
> >> From what I can tell, we have a way to go to improving feedback to
> >> the Foundation on governance, organisation and overall management
> >> presently and this is a pretty standard mechanism used by
> >> organisations worldwide.
> >>
> >> I'd welcome feedback from anyone in this area. It may be that the
> >> user survey isn't the best place to add this, but I feel like there
> >> is definitely room for discussion here.
> >>
> >> Cheers Tristan
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Alan Clark
> >> [mailto:aclark at suse.com] Sent: Thursday, 26 March 2015 9:53 AM To:
> >> foundation-board at lists.openstack.org Subject: [Foundation Board]
> >> April 2 OpenStack Board meeting call for agenda items; Board packet
> >> materials due by Monday March 30th.
> >>
> >> The next OpenStack board meeting will be held on April 2nd at
> >> 12noon - 2pm pacific.
> >>
> >> Committee Chairs and Directors please send me items you would like
> >> on the agenda.  I need the materials for the board packet by EOB
> >> Monday March 30th so that I may post and distribute the materials
> >> to the board prior to the meeting. (Please tell me if materials
> >> need to be marked confidential.)
> >>
> >> I've started drafting the agenda[1].  Expecting topics from several
> >> committees, it's going to be a very full agenda. We will also be
> >> holding an Executive Session during the meeting.
> >>
> >> Thanks, AlanClark
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/2Apr2015BoardMeeting
> >>
> >>
> #Agenda
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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