[OpenStack Foundation] Today's WSJ article <-- Alternatives to RHEL?

Joshua McKenty joshua at pistoncloud.com
Wed May 14 18:36:47 UTC 2014


Based on conversations with a number of folks, I drafted a proposed “Policy Statement” and reviewed it with Jonathan. This is not specific to any particular vendor, but simply reaffirming the OpenStack foundation’s historical and current relationship with OS vendors.

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStackBoard-CommercialPolicyStatement

Patches welcome.

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On May 14, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Gil Yehuda <gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:

> Suggestion: watch http://press.redhat.com/ Let’s see what Red Hat themselves has to say about their plans to support or not support their products. Why? Because the WSJ might have it right, might have it wrong, or might have it mostly right but wrong in some details. And before people react to a position on the part of a company, we should verify that position.
>  
> Then by all means, if they are not playing fair (either from the perspective of the court of law, or the court of public opinion), then the OpenStack community will have to react. And in the case, react strongly.
>  
> I’m simply suggesting that we consider the reaction based on what RedHat actually says, not what WSJ says about them.  I haven’t seen them say anything formal yet – when they do (or if they did) please share.
>  
> Gil Yehuda
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> From: Dave Nielsen [mailto:dnielsen at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:20 AM
> To: Joshua McKenty
> Cc: <foundation at lists.openstack.org>; Stefano Maffulli
> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Today's WSJ article <-- Alternatives to RHEL?
>  
> I'm no lawyer, but I think it would be hard to prove RHEL has a monopoly. Still, Red Hat has turned a reliance on RHEL by OpenStack customers into a clear liability for the rest of the OpenStack community. Rather taking Red Hat to court, it seems it would healthier to get serious about supporting a competitive alternative, or helping to create one. 
> 
> [this my opinion, not that of anyone I may consult for from time to time]
> 
> Dave
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> Dave Nielsen
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> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Joshua McKenty <joshua at pistoncloud.com> wrote:
> Yes, that’s the one. I’ve printed a PDF just to help out.
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> Joshua McKenty
> Chief Technology Officer
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>  
> "Oh, Westley, we'll never survive!"
> "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has."
>  
> On May 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> is it this one? Title: Red Hat Plays Hardball on OpenStack Software
> 
> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCsQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303851804579560290024021158.html&ei=aIpzU_vzFevJsQT_kIGoBw&usg=AFQjCNHe46xKvlhxjlEttnUlRWwzhEXyLA&sig2=sMzbNDF7bRan-69AJ0a5fQ&bvm=bv.66699033,d.cWc&cad=rja
> 
> Trick: if you google the title of the article, WSJ will give you the
> full article but if you follow the url straight from a link, WSJ
> requires login
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> On 05/14/2014 09:38 AM, Joshua McKenty wrote:
> 
> Sorry
> - http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303851804579560290024021158
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> Joshua McKenty
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> Piston Cloud Computing, Inc.
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> +1 (650) 283-6846
> http://www.pistoncloud.com
> 
> "Oh, Westley, we'll never survive!"
> "Nonsense. You're only saying that because no one ever has."
> 
> On May 14, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Dave Neary <dneary at redhat.com
> <mailto:dneary at redhat.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Josh,
> 
> Do you have a link?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave.
> 
> On 05/14/2014 09:07 AM, Joshua McKenty wrote:
> 
> Board members et al,
> 
> As usual, I am not a lawyer. However, given the overtones of
> antitrust concern in this article, if other board members and/or
> foundation staff feel that we should discuss this, I would ask that
> we schedule a quick board-coffee-meeting. We need to avoid any
> walking quorums, and we also need to instruct Jonathan and foundation
> staff with a clear response. This is not a topic where I feel it
> would be appropriate for Alan to represent the board.
> 
> Joshua
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