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Suggestion: watch http://press.redhat.com/ Let’s see what Red Hat themselves has to say about their plans to support or not support their products. Why? Because the WSJ might have it right, might have it wrong, or might have it mostly right but wrong in some details. And before people react to a position on the part of a company, we should verify that position.

Then by all means, if they are not playing fair (either from the perspective of the court of law, or the court of public opinion), then the OpenStack community will have to react. And in the case, react strongly.

I’m simply suggesting that we consider the reaction based on what RedHat actually says, not what WSJ says about them.  I haven’t seen them say anything formal yet – when they do (or if they did) please share.

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From: Dave Nielsen [mailto:dnielsen at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 11:20 AM
To: Joshua McKenty
Cc: <foundation at lists.openstack.org>; Stefano Maffulli
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Today's WSJ article <-- Alternatives to RHEL?

I'm no lawyer, but I think it would be hard to prove RHEL has a monopoly. Still, Red Hat has turned a reliance on RHEL by OpenStack customers into a clear liability for the rest of the OpenStack community. Rather taking Red Hat to court, it seems it would healthier to get serious about supporting a competitive alternative, or helping to create one.

[this my opinion, not that of anyone I may consult for from time to time]
Dave

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On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Joshua McKenty <joshua at pistoncloud.com<mailto:joshua at pistoncloud.com>> wrote:
Yes, that’s the one. I’ve printed a PDF just to help out.



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On May 14, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org<mailto:stefano at openstack.org>> wrote:


is it this one? Title: Red Hat Plays Hardball on OpenStack Software

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCsQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303851804579560290024021158.html&ei=aIpzU_vzFevJsQT_kIGoBw&usg=AFQjCNHe46xKvlhxjlEttnUlRWwzhEXyLA&sig2=sMzbNDF7bRan-69AJ0a5fQ&bvm=bv.66699033,d.cWc&cad=rja

Trick: if you google the title of the article, WSJ will give you the
full article but if you follow the url straight from a link, WSJ
requires login

On 05/14/2014 09:38 AM, Joshua McKenty wrote:

Sorry
- http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303851804579560290024021158

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On May 14, 2014, at 6:34 AM, Dave Neary <dneary at redhat.com<mailto:dneary at redhat.com>
<mailto:dneary at redhat.com<mailto:dneary at redhat.com>>> wrote:


Hi Josh,

Do you have a link?

Thanks,
Dave.

On 05/14/2014 09:07 AM, Joshua McKenty wrote:

Board members et al,

As usual, I am not a lawyer. However, given the overtones of
antitrust concern in this article, if other board members and/or
foundation staff feel that we should discuss this, I would ask that
we schedule a quick board-coffee-meeting. We need to avoid any
walking quorums, and we also need to instruct Jonathan and foundation
staff with a clear response. This is not a topic where I feel it
would be appropriate for Alan to represent the board.

Joshua

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