[OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack core and interoperability

Mark Collier mark at openstack.org
Thu Oct 31 23:06:03 UTC 2013

Yes that is the existing program with requirements regarding running code.
 A couple of things to note:

1)  It includes by reference the "Restricted Use Logo Guidelines" (see: *
http://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-cloud/* ) which includes a
requirement that clouds pass a FITS test approved by the TC.  So this is
already in the existing agreements.  All that is needed is for the tests to
be written and TC approved. No new legal language is required AFAIK.

 "As of January 1st, 2012, your product must pass any Faithful
Implementation Test Suite (FITS) defined by the Technical Committee that
will be made available on http://www.openstack.org/FITS , to verify that
you are implementing a sufficiently current and complete version of the
software (and exposing associated APIs) to ensure compatibility and
interoperability. Your product will be required to pass the current FITS
test on an annual basis, which will generally require you to be running
either of the latest two software releases."

2)  Eligibility for the the current program requires companies to be either
a Start Up sponsor, an established company Sponsor, Gold Member, or
Platinum Member. (The sponsor categories were omitted from your list).
 This requirement could certainly be debated, but it does help when
approaching the problem via legal agreements (as opposed to software tests)
if there is a relationship with the companies in question.  It also helps
fund the defense of the trademark which the company is looking to leverage
in their commercial offering.

So I would say that we actually have the framework we need.  As Monty
pointed out, the "using code" is not something we necessarily need to
devise technical tests for.  It is a term in an agreement which, while not
perfect, is a reasonable path for achieviing this particular goal IMHO.
 That it exists in the current agreements is even better.


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-10-31 at 17:24 -0400, Monty Taylor wrote:
> > This is how it works now. You're required to run the code.
> >
> > Thing is, this is about legal contracts. So enforcement is hazy.
> > Essentially, if hp signs a trademark usage thing that says we have to
> > run it, our own lawyers won't let us do different. I think the first
> > step is to say "OpenStack requires you run the code" ... Then as
> > violations are brought to our attention, we look in to it.
> You mean this?
> https://www.openstack.org/brand/openstack-cloud/
> We could just add "must pass API compatibility tests" to those technical
> requirements.
> We might also list some other projects which "must be included in their
> entirety in the product".
> Would you see any further refinement of the requirements?
> If we thought we could go ahead with those requirements and open the
> program to non-Platinum/Gold members, then great.
> That allows us to get down to the real business of deciding which APIs
> are required and considering changing the list of required projects.
> Mark.
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