Open Stack

Yes, learning from the past. And yes open web. However, note that the numbers of players and scale of early stage business attention is quite different.

Also, this is the second time you've suggested that you think OpenStack thinks it's too special and could learn more from its predecessors. I think that you're potentially missing the fact that OpenStack is largely descended from Ubuntu and MySQL in it's structure and approach and has taken many lessons to heart. But it's also important to forge the ground in front of us now, and not get blinded by the battles of 20 years ago, both good and bad.

New times call for new choices sometimes. Apache created a new license back when, ignoring the existing ones. We're using it, learning. But, we're also forging ahead where it makes sense.

So far, I think we're doing pretty well.

Jim Jagielski <jimjag at gmail.com> wrote:

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>On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:
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>set of interfaces, then the goal of an Open cloud would, I'm pretty
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>It really depends on the strength of the community around those "interfaces"...
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>I use the term interface, in this context at least, very loosely. Think of it more as the set or protocols and standards. In this meaning, having a default, FOSS implementation, managed by a neutral entity with a real strong community behind it is *crucial*.
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>Not to reference Apache httpd again, but the concerns and issues regarding an "Open Cloud" is not so much different than the "old" days of an "Open Web". During those times, there was *significant* incentive for externals to drive the web, to create their own "version" of the web. AOL tried it, and it was the availability of Apache, as well as the huge amount of community around Apache and its status as a reference implementation that allowed us back then to stop AOL's efforts in their tracks. You can find similar parallels in other areas as well.
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>Let's not think that OpenStack is sooooo unique that it has nothing that can be learned by others who came before. Isn't that what true Open Source is about?
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