Open Stack

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>wrote:

> On 10/31/2012 06:21 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>
>> Having 600+ alligned votes from a single company entirely violates
>> the 'Do what is best for the project',
>>
>
> Why do you say that? Are the people elected not the best possible
> people? Have they failed (or why do you think they will fail)
> representing the interests of Individual Members? Do you believe that
> some of them will vote for the company before they vote for the project
> and not do what's best for OpenStack?
>
>
If every large organization did this it would ensure that smaller
organizations were excluded, even if the smaller organizations provide
*way* more value to the community. It's an abuse of the system, really. The
people elected are perfectly capable, but that's not really the point.


> I think it's worth to repeat that openness and easy access to OpenStack
> is one of the founding principle of this community. The project at the
> beginning and the Foundation later has been designed to be very
> inclusive http://wiki.openstack.org/Open**. The comparisons with other
> projects/foundations are interesting but we need to keep in mind that
> OpenStack is very different from all of the existing ones.
>
>
It's possible to be Open without having a very abusable system.

Wikimedia is very open, but even we have requirements for voting. I think
they are fairly sane. They basically say you can't be blocked and you must
be a participant in some kind of way:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2011/en#Requirements


> While I agree that we should investigate the possibility to use a
> different election algorithm to increase the chances of electing the
> best candidates, as discussed before, I don't think we should limit
> access to the Foundation (at least not until there is proof that openness
> and easy access is bad for OpenStack).
>
>
I think large organizations having very easy ability to game the system
(purposely or accidentally) with evidence of this in the last election
shows that this level of openness is already bad for OpenStack.

- Ryan
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