[OpenStack Foundation] Board Meeting - October 15th

Jaesuk Ahn bluejay.ahn at gmail.com
Sat Oct 20 08:40:27 UTC 2012

Oct 14, 2012, 9:11 AM, Tristan Goode <tristan at aptira.com> 작성:

> PS.
> Not on this topic but while we're discussing the internationalisation of Openstack, @mikal suggested a great idea to me yesterday. A sponsored travel program could be introduced for people whose location is more remote and who are significantly contributing to code. They may be independent or perhaps work for companies that cannot, or will not, send them to summits.

Hi Tristan, 

+1 to discuss more ideas to support international communities and/or members. 
I had a similar idea regarding a sponsored travel program for OpenStack APAC conference by myself. 
In addition, I know that there has been a similar proposal from Korean government agency to figure out how to encourage local developers (students) to become active participants in global open source community. 
I think it is possible for openstack community to collaborate with them (korean government agency) in some part. 

Especially, IMHO, we need to have a good way to encourage current/potential contributors in non-english speaking countries. (I am using a word "contribution" not only for code contribution, but also for various types of contribution we can define.) 

Let me know if you need any support / help on this "internationalization" of OpenStack. 


Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D.
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Cloud Infrastructure Department
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Soren Hansen [mailto:soren at linux2go.dk]
>> Sent: Friday, 12 October 2012 12:10 AM
>> To: Christopher B Ferris
>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org; Vincent Untz
>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Board Meeting - October 15th
>> 2012/10/11 Christopher B Ferris <chrisfer at us.ibm.com>:
>>> I'd like to see OpenStack Foundation adopt a policy it should have
>>> adopted at the outset. Limit Board representation to a single
>>> individual from an affiliated entity, period.
>> I think this would be a grave mistake.
>> If every single member of the community wanted the same two specific individuals
>> to be on the board, but they just happened to work for the same company, why
>> should that exclude one of them? This is a theoretical situation, of course, but it
>> demonstrates the point:
>> The goal shouldn't be to limit who gets elected. The goal is to prevent a company
>> from unduly affecting the results of the election. These are orthogonal concerns.
>> They only align somewhat under the assumption that employees of a particular
>> company only vote for candidates from their own company and that noone outside
>> said company votes for them.
>> If the community in general (i.e. not just those affiliated with a particular company)
>> find that some people are the best fits for the board, those are the ones we should
>> have on the board. So what if they part of the same organisation?
>> It's not hard to imagine discussions where the two opposing positions were
>> favourable to corporate contributors and favourable to individual contributors,
>> respectively. The one-individual-per-company policy does absolutely nothing to
>> prevent large companies to fill the board with individuals favourable to their goals.
>> Condorcet or STV would both be vast improvements over the current election
>> system, but if we're really concerned that large companies excert too influence, why
>> don't we limit the number of voters?
>> What if employees of platinum members couldn't vote at all? They already have a
>> representative on the board.
>> What if we weren't allowed to vote for people from our own company?
>> What if we flipped the vote upside down and instead of electing the people who gets
>> the most votes *for* them, we elect the people with the least votes *against* them?
>> There are plenty of options that haven't been explored at all here.
>> --
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