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On 08/02/2012 01:03 AM, Gil Yehuda wrote:
>> In general I hate customers, and the last thing I would ever be fanatical about is support
>>      
> Yup, and this group is getting PR advice about how to avoid negative reactions from the blogosphere from the guy who works at Yahoo!.  Strange days indeed.
>
> gil yehuda
> director of open source and standards, Yahoo! Inc.
> gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com | (408) 336-4857
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ewan Mellor [mailto:Ewan.Mellor at eu.citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:53 PM
> To: Gil Yehuda; Anne Gentle; Matt Joyce
> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
> Subject: RE: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
>
> OK, well I'm glad that I've had the chance to state my affiliation.  In general I hate customers, and the last thing I would ever be fanatical about is support.
>
> I actually think that the optics are pretty good in this case.  Of the 2,500 people who care enough to sign up, over 20% aren't working for the 'big hitters', and 13% aren't even being paid to do this at all.  I think that's a great story for OpenStack, to be honest.
>
> Ewan.
>
>
>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gil Yehuda [mailto:gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 3:10 PM
>> To: Ewan Mellor; Anne Gentle; Matt Joyce
>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: RE: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
>>
>> Not accusing you at all. I'm just remarking at how the data is neatly
>> hidden, to make "affiliated other" appear to be a unit, when we know
>> that it is a very diverse collection of others.  This is something
>> that data analysts do to hide details.  I'm not suggesting you were
>> doing anything malicious. The data can say what we want it to say.
>> The problem here is not "facts" but optics.
>>
>> As Stefano said:
>>      
>>> for what I've seen so far in almost 1 year, OpenStack, as an open
>>>        
>> source software
>>      
>>> project was never "tightly controlled" by any company.
>>>        
>> And I take him at his word.
>>
>> My issue is not that any person did something in violation of the
>> rules, or that Rackspace is doing something that will ruin the voting
>> process.  My issue is that it looks bad, and they should have
>> understood that.  Your manipulation of data (I mean this as non-
>> pejorative phrase) demonstrates that data could be displayed in
>> multiple ways and is not the same as fact.  I think this was very
>> helpful, and not a defense of Rackspace at all.  I'm not accusing you
>> or Rackspace of manipulation. I'm suggesting Rackspace should have
>> done a better job of reading the play. I saw your revised chart as a
>> clever demonstration that this is more about perception than reality
>> -- which is how I see it too.
>>
>> gil yehuda
>> director of open source and standards, Yahoo! Inc.
>> gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com | (408) 336-4857
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ewan Mellor [mailto:Ewan.Mellor at eu.citrix.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:58 PM
>> To: Gil Yehuda; Anne Gentle; Matt Joyce
>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: RE: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
>>
>> I don't know what you're saying, but it sounds like you're accusing me
>> of pro-Rackspace bias.  You do know who I work for, right?
>>
>> Ewan.
>>
>>      
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gil Yehuda [mailto:gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:18 PM
>>> To: Ewan Mellor; Anne Gentle; Matt Joyce
>>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
>>> Subject: RE: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
>>>
>>> Classic information hiding technique.  I used to be an industry
>>> analyst, we learned those tricks too. Viola, the problem has
>>>        
>> magically
>>      
>>> gone away.
>>>
>>>
>>> gil yehuda
>>> director of open source and standards, Yahoo! Inc.
>>> gyehuda at yahoo-inc.com | (408) 336-4857
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ewan Mellor [mailto:Ewan.Mellor at eu.citrix.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:12 PM
>>> To: Anne Gentle; Matt Joyce
>>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
>>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
>>>
>>> Are the numbers even that bad?  After a bit of tweaking on that
>>>        
>> script
>>      
>>> I make it currently:
>>>
>>> 31.56% Rackspace
>>> 30.25% HP
>>> 25.24% Affiliated other
>>> 12.95% Non-affiliated
>>>
>>> Is that too "Fox News" for people?  I don't think so.
>>>
>>> Ewan.
>>>
>>>        
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Anne Gentle [mailto:anne at openstack.org]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:22 PM
>>>> To: Matt Joyce
>>>> Cc: foundation at lists.openstack.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] Nomination Process Updates
>>>>
>>>> In the spirit of
>>>> running-the-code-so-the-rest-of-us-get-more-context,
>>>> here's the resulting output when run at 2:10 CST today 8/1/12.
>>>>
>>>> [(787, u'rackspace'),
>>>>   (753, u'hp'),
>>>>   (297, u'none'),
>>>>   (41, u'cisco'),
>>>>   (28, u'canonical'),
>>>>   (24, u'dreamhost'),
>>>>   (22, u'red hat'),
>>>>   (22, u'nebula'),
>>>>   (17, u'cloudscaling'),
>>>>   (14, u'employee'),
>>>>   (13, u'morphlabs'),
>>>>   (13, u'emc'),
>>>>   (13, u'dell'),
>>>>   (10, u'suse'),
>>>>   (10, u'piston cloud'),
>>>>   (5, u'yahoo'),
>>>>   (5, u'ibm'),
>>>>   (5, u'at&t'),
>>>>   (4, u'tipit'),
>>>>   (4, u'opscode')]
>>>>
>>>> Wanted to be sure non-Python programmers have the information that
>>>> results from running the script linked on Github.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jonathan and crew for all the additional info, now I know
>>>>          
>> who
>>      
>>>> to thank for the support.
>>>> Anne
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Matt Joyce<matt at nycresistor.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>          
>>>>>> For those who are curious, I've pushed up an ugly hack to get
>>>>>> some basic stats one membership affiliations here:
>>>>>>    https://gist.github.com/3229457
>>>>>>              
>>>>> =/  not particularly happy with those numbers.  it's about as
>>>>>            
>> fair
>>      
>>>> and
>>>>          
>>>>> balanced as fox news.
>>>>>
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