From ashlee at openstack.org  Tue Jun  1 23:21:49 2021
From: ashlee at openstack.org (Ashlee Ferguson)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 18:21:49 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] OpenInfra Live - June 3rd at 9am CT (1400 UTC)
Message-ID: <C5C47FB7-FF67-4609-8BEE-1276CF6ACD0F@openstack.org>

Hi everyone,

This week’s OpenInfra Live episode is brought to you by the OpenInfra Foundation!

Are the hyperscale public clouds killing open source? Is open source actually secure? How does open source impact software supply chains? Join us as Jonathan Bryce (Executive Director, OpenInfra Foundation), Mark Collier (COO, OpenInfra Foundation) and Allison Randal (Board Chair, OpenInfra Foundation) answer all of your toughest questions live on Thursday, June 3rd 14:00 UTC. Share your questions with us in advance on any of our social media channels like Twitter <https://twitter.com/openinfradev/status/1399546311087640583>, Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4016718978383341/>, and LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6803727380516106240/>.

Episode: OpenInfra AMA (Ask Me Anything) 

Date and time: June 3rd at 9am CT (1400 UTC)

You can watch us live on:
YouTube: https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4016718978383341/ <https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4016718978383341/>
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6803727380516106240/ <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6803727380516106240/> 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4016718978383341/ <https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4016718978383341/>
WeChat: recording will be posted on OpenStack WeChat after the live stream


Thanks,
Ashlee

Ashlee Ferguson
Community & Events Coordinator
Open Infrastructure Foundation 


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From gmann at ghanshyammann.com  Wed Jun  9 15:47:55 2021
From: gmann at ghanshyammann.com (Ghanshyam Mann)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2021 10:47:55 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] Future of this mailing list
Message-ID: <179f1756d3c.107ab581c438183.2607242252168714866@ghanshyammann.com>

>During Summit cycles this list usually gets quite a bit of interaction, so I’d say it’s still useful for that purpose since the audience is a bit more specific than the discuss list.  

>Ashlee

Thanks, Ashlee for the info.

As fungi mentioned, out of 9 threads in the last 6 months, 8 are technical requests for openstack-discuss ML and many of them we might have missed replying, though many are forwarded to openstack-discuss ML.  Even in the case of forwarding, I am afraid if the author is not registered to openstack-discuss and they do not see any answer/discussion for their query.

To avoid such a situation IMO, merging this list to openstack-discuss make sense. And for summit related discussion, may be we can encourage them to use the summit at openstack.org ML or any other appropriate one.

Because the name of this ML does not clarify that this is only for non-technical queries and related to user groups only (though ML topic is mentioning it).

or another option is to rename this ML to openstack-user-groups or so if possible?

-gmann


>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:
>> 
>> After looking back through the last 6 months worth of list archives,
>> there have been 9 threads: 1 was an announcement about the OpenStack
>> Annual Report and the other 8 were technical support requests which
>> needed to be referred to the openstack-discuss mailing list. Even
>> though the description for this list clearly says it's not for
>> support questions, that seems to be pretty much the only thing
>> anyone besides foundation staff send to it.
>> 
>> So with that in mind, is this list still serving any useful purpose?
>> Should we consider retiring it or folding it into another list
>> (maybe openstack-discuss)?
>> -- 
>> Jeremy Stanley
>> _______________________________________________
>> Community mailing list
>> Community at lists.openstack.org
>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community



From erin at openstack.org  Wed Jun  9 16:26:04 2021
From: erin at openstack.org (Erin Disney)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:26:04 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] OpenInfra Live - June 10th at 9am CT (1400
	UTC)
Message-ID: <78AE71C3-FE37-40CF-8053-A6DF742AA2DD@openstack.org>

Hi everyone,

This week’s OpenInfra Live episode is brought to you by the OpenStack Community. 

Keeping up with new OpenStack releases can be a challenge. In this continuation of the May 20th OpenInfra Live episode, a panel of large scale OpenStack infrastructure operators from Blizzard Entertainment, OVHcloud, Workday, Vexxhost and CERN join us again to further discuss upgrades. 

Episode: Upgrades in Large Scale OpenStack Infrastructure: The Discussion

Date and time: Thursday, June 10th at 9am CT (1400 UTC)

You can watch us live on:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fSy005lDs
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6806241782301626368/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/openinfradev/videos/474846136944392
WeChat: recording will be posted on OpenStack WeChat after the live stream

Speakers:
Belmiro Moreira (CERN), Arnaud Morin (OVH). Mohammed Naser (Vexxhost), Imtiaz Chowdhury (Workday), Joshua Slater (Blizzard)

First Upgrades OpenInfra Live Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf5iFiCg_Tw

Thanks,
Erin

Erin Disney
Event Marketing 
Open Infrastructure Foundation 




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From ashlee at openstack.org  Wed Jun  9 21:01:44 2021
From: ashlee at openstack.org (Ashlee Ferguson)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 16:01:44 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] Future of this mailing list
In-Reply-To: <179f1756d3c.107ab581c438183.2607242252168714866@ghanshyammann.com>
References: <179f1756d3c.107ab581c438183.2607242252168714866@ghanshyammann.com>
Message-ID: <33E66A98-0EAD-45BC-A3C8-4723DFC4ED75@openstack.org>

Well, the reason there hasn’t been much interaction here is because there haven’t been in-person events for over 9 months. I realize it’s still limited during event cycles, but I think having a ML specific to the community and User Group organizers is important because of the heavy traffic on the discuss ML. 

I think it’s fine to direct technical questions to the discuss ML and encourage people to register there, but I support keeping this ML because it allows us to discuss and communicate non-technical topics to user groups and organizers. 

There’s not a general Summit ML I’m aware of—that email is an alias. Renaming this ML to User-Groups would probably help clarify. As we roll into this next year, I think we’ll get a lot more use out of this list with the return of local meetups as well. 


Ashlee

> On Jun 9, 2021, at 10:47 AM, Ghanshyam Mann <gmann at ghanshyammann.com> wrote:
> 
>> During Summit cycles this list usually gets quite a bit of interaction, so I’d say it’s still useful for that purpose since the audience is a bit more specific than the discuss list.  
> 
>> Ashlee
> 
> Thanks, Ashlee for the info.
> 
> As fungi mentioned, out of 9 threads in the last 6 months, 8 are technical requests for openstack-discuss ML and many of them we might have missed replying, though many are forwarded to openstack-discuss ML.  Even in the case of forwarding, I am afraid if the author is not registered to openstack-discuss and they do not see any answer/discussion for their query.
> 
> To avoid such a situation IMO, merging this list to openstack-discuss make sense. And for summit related discussion, may be we can encourage them to use the summit at openstack.org ML or any other appropriate one.
> 
> Because the name of this ML does not clarify that this is only for non-technical queries and related to user groups only (though ML topic is mentioning it).
> 
> or another option is to rename this ML to openstack-user-groups or so if possible?
> 
> -gmann
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After looking back through the last 6 months worth of list archives,
>>> there have been 9 threads: 1 was an announcement about the OpenStack
>>> Annual Report and the other 8 were technical support requests which
>>> needed to be referred to the openstack-discuss mailing list. Even
>>> though the description for this list clearly says it's not for
>>> support questions, that seems to be pretty much the only thing
>>> anyone besides foundation staff send to it.
>>> 
>>> So with that in mind, is this list still serving any useful purpose?
>>> Should we consider retiring it or folding it into another list
>>> (maybe openstack-discuss)?
>>> -- 
>>> Jeremy Stanley
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Community mailing list
>>> Community at lists.openstack.org
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Community mailing list
> Community at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community



From fungi at yuggoth.org  Wed Jun  9 21:34:36 2021
From: fungi at yuggoth.org (Jeremy Stanley)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 21:34:36 +0000
Subject: [openstack-community] Future of this mailing list
In-Reply-To: <33E66A98-0EAD-45BC-A3C8-4723DFC4ED75@openstack.org>
References: <179f1756d3c.107ab581c438183.2607242252168714866@ghanshyammann.com>
 <33E66A98-0EAD-45BC-A3C8-4723DFC4ED75@openstack.org>
Message-ID: <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>

On 2021-06-09 16:01:44 -0500 (-0500), Ashlee Ferguson wrote:
> Well, the reason there hasn’t been much interaction here is
> because there haven’t been in-person events for over 9 months. I
> realize it’s still limited during event cycles, but I think having
> a ML specific to the community and User Group organizers is
> important because of the heavy traffic on the discuss ML. 
[...]

But is it actually reaching anyone? In the several months since I
proposed folding this into openstack-discuss there was only one real
response, and it was from you. Do we have reason to believe that the
community and user group organizers are reading the messages here?

And I agree, the mailing list name is a bit of honeypot for confused
users looking for where to post questions about software. Maybe if
we moved it to a less vague name and off of the openstack.org domain
(the OpenInfra Summits haven't been OpenStack-only for a number of
years now), that might help. I'm already planning to follow up with
the OpenInfra Foundation staff on creating a lists.openinfra.dev
listserv site and rerouting the existing foundation-oriented lists
there, so if this one is also not OpenStack-specific then it
probably fits into that same category.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley
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From jimmy at openstack.org  Wed Jun  9 21:43:13 2021
From: jimmy at openstack.org (Jimmy McArthur)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 16:43:13 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] Future of this mailing list
In-Reply-To: <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>
References: <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>
Message-ID: <B13BC100-3FCF-4F59-815E-B3FBAF5819FB@getmailspring.com>

I think what Ashlee is saying is the list doesn't get use when events/user group meetups aren't happening. However, they use it as a single channel of communication for important Foundation messaging to those groups.

On Jun 9 2021, at 4:34 pm, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:
> On 2021-06-09 16:01:44 -0500 (-0500), Ashlee Ferguson wrote:
> > Well, the reason there hasn’t been much interaction here is
> > because there haven’t been in-person events for over 9 months. I
> > realize it’s still limited during event cycles, but I think having
> > a ML specific to the community and User Group organizers is
> > important because of the heavy traffic on the discuss ML.
> [...]
>
> But is it actually reaching anyone? In the several months since I
> proposed folding this into openstack-discuss there was only one real
> response, and it was from you. Do we have reason to believe that the
> community and user group organizers are reading the messages here?
>
> And I agree, the mailing list name is a bit of honeypot for confused
> users looking for where to post questions about software. Maybe if
> we moved it to a less vague name and off of the openstack.org domain
> (the OpenInfra Summits haven't been OpenStack-only for a number of
> years now), that might help. I'm already planning to follow up with
> the OpenInfra Foundation staff on creating a lists.openinfra.dev
> listserv site and rerouting the existing foundation-oriented lists
> there, so if this one is also not OpenStack-specific then it
> probably fits into that same category.
> --
> Jeremy Stanley
> _______________________________________________
> Community mailing list
> Community at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
>

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From danny at abukalam.com  Wed Jun  9 21:45:24 2021
From: danny at abukalam.com (Danny Abukalam)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2021 22:45:24 +0100
Subject: [openstack-community] Future of this mailing list
In-Reply-To: <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>
References: <179f1756d3c.107ab581c438183.2607242252168714866@ghanshyammann.com>
 <33E66A98-0EAD-45BC-A3C8-4723DFC4ED75@openstack.org>
 <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>
Message-ID: <CADnFngTZCfMtFRkdX6o4UE1ku6AnX5epyimY2_1JVchoWMJtDg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:36 PM Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:

> On 2021-06-09 16:01:44 -0500 (-0500), Ashlee Ferguson wrote:
> > Well, the reason there hasn’t been much interaction here is
> > because there haven’t been in-person events for over 9 months. I
> > realize it’s still limited during event cycles, but I think having
> > a ML specific to the community and User Group organizers is
> > important because of the heavy traffic on the discuss ML.
> [...]
>
> But is it actually reaching anyone? In the several months since I
> proposed folding this into openstack-discuss there was only one real
> response, and it was from you. Do we have reason to believe that the
> community and user group organizers are reading the messages here?
>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOGI7qeD1NA

Yup! I do read this list and agree with Ashlee - I definitely think there's
value in keeping it, as I definitely hope that when in-person events pick
up, user group and community leaders will continue to collaborate on
advocacy, and this list is useful for that.

I wouldn't be against moving to opendev or something else, as I think it's
definitely true that the OpenInfra community now represents more than just
the OpenStack project.

Thanks,
Danny
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From gmann at ghanshyammann.com  Wed Jun  9 22:10:42 2021
From: gmann at ghanshyammann.com (Ghanshyam Mann)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2021 17:10:42 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] Future of this mailing list
In-Reply-To: <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>
References: <179f1756d3c.107ab581c438183.2607242252168714866@ghanshyammann.com>
 <33E66A98-0EAD-45BC-A3C8-4723DFC4ED75@openstack.org>
 <20210609213435.djajilltd3vt5t3k@yuggoth.org>
Message-ID: <179f2d3e28b.b26faeb1453340.6996131488576950926@ghanshyammann.com>

---- On Wed, 09 Jun 2021 16:34:36 -0500 Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote ----
 > On 2021-06-09 16:01:44 -0500 (-0500), Ashlee Ferguson wrote:
 > > Well, the reason there hasn’t been much interaction here is
 > > because there haven’t been in-person events for over 9 months. I
 > > realize it’s still limited during event cycles, but I think having
 > > a ML specific to the community and User Group organizers is
 > > important because of the heavy traffic on the discuss ML. 
 > [...]
 > 
 > But is it actually reaching anyone? In the several months since I
 > proposed folding this into openstack-discuss there was only one real
 > response, and it was from you. Do we have reason to believe that the
 > community and user group organizers are reading the messages here?
 > 
 > And I agree, the mailing list name is a bit of honeypot for confused
 > users looking for where to post questions about software. Maybe if
 > we moved it to a less vague name and off of the openstack.org domain
 > (the OpenInfra Summits haven't been OpenStack-only for a number of
 > years now), that might help. I'm already planning to follow up with
 > the OpenInfra Foundation staff on creating a lists.openinfra.dev
 > listserv site and rerouting the existing foundation-oriented lists
 > there, so if this one is also not OpenStack-specific then it
 > probably fits into that same category.

Yeah, I think that makes sense and way forward to solve the splitting the
the technical issue between openstack-discuss and this ML.

-gmann


 > -- 
 > Jeremy Stanley
 > _______________________________________________
 > Community mailing list
 > Community at lists.openstack.org
 > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
 > 


From erin at openstack.org  Wed Jun 16 17:32:37 2021
From: erin at openstack.org (Erin Disney)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 12:32:37 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] OpenInfra Live -  June 17th at 9am CT
Message-ID: <4EE4C3A9-640E-488E-94C0-5CBE1EE82AF8@openstack.org>

Hi everyone,

This week’s OpenInfra Live episode is brought to you by OpenInfra community contributors!

Episode: 
Curious about how to start contributing upstream? Kendall Nelson (OpenInfra Upstream Developer Advocate), Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (OpenStack contributor who joined the community through the Outreachy internship program) will be joined by Archana Kumari (current Outreachy intern), Ashley Rodriquez (Boston University graduate), Fatema Sherif (former Outreachy intern) and Dawson Coleman (NDSU graduate). The group will discuss internships, mentoring, and how you can get started contributing upstream to open source projects like OpenStack, Airship, Kata, StarlingX and Zuul.

Date and time: Thursday, June 17th at 9am CT (1400 UTC)

You can watch us live on:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kGtM4J_hjM <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kGtM4J_hjM>
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6808870825278640128/ <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6808870825278640128/>
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4058210514234187/ <https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4058210514234187/>
WeChat: recording will be posted on OpenStack WeChat after the live stream

Have an idea for a future episode? Share it now at ideas.openinfra.live <https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfralive>. Deadline to be included in an August/September show is Friday, July 16th. 

Thanks,
Erin 


Erin Disney
Event Marketing 
Open Infrastructure Foundation 




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From ashlee at openstack.org  Wed Jun 23 14:32:49 2021
From: ashlee at openstack.org (Ashlee Ferguson)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 09:32:49 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] OpenInfra Live - June 24 at 9am CT
Message-ID: <6F83EBBA-467C-4C0C-B404-E60240E724D8@openstack.org>

Hi everyone,

This week’s OpenInfra Live episode is brought to you by the OpenInfra Foundation.

Are you looking for a job in open source? Curious about what companies might be right for you? Join us as we spotlight some of our member companies with open infrastructure job openings, learn about their company cultures, and hear what they are looking for in candidates. 

Episode: Open Source Job Openings (and how to land them)

Date and time: June 24 at 9am CT (1400 UTC)

You can watch us live on:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfrvN9zkjs8
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6811309941610049536/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4076497655738806/
WeChat: recording will be posted on OpenStack WeChat after the live stream

This episode will feature community members from:
Canonical
Facebook
OVH
T-Systems
Whitestack

Have an idea for a future episode? Share it now at ideas.openinfra.live <https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfralive>. 

Thanks,
Ashlee

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From ashlee at openstack.org  Mon Jun 28 16:46:49 2021
From: ashlee at openstack.org (Ashlee Ferguson)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 11:46:49 -0500
Subject: [openstack-community] OpenInfra Live - July 1 at 9am CT
Message-ID: <DBB6862D-CF5C-4CD3-BB0F-5D85CDBFF947@openstack.org>

Hi everyone,

This week’s OpenInfra Live episode is brought to you by the Open Infrastructure Foundation. 

The GSMA expects there will be over 24 billion edge connections by 2025, 20% of them on 5G. The intelligent edge is the analysis of data and development of solutions at the site where the data is generated. A recent survey, conducted by Wind River and supported by the OpenInfra Foundation, highlights some key trends around the intelligent edge and how open source plays a critical role. Join Ildiko Vancsa as she hosts Mark Collier and Paul Miller to learn about the results of the survey and insight into how upstream communities are making progress for this emerging use case. 


Episode: Building the Intelligent Edge with Open Source Technologies

Date and time: July 1 at 9am CT (1400 UTC)

You can watch us live on:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHHCIGkpNzs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHHCIGkpNzs>
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6813893379852763136/ <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6813893379852763136/> 
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4096084423780129/ <https://www.facebook.com/104139126308032/posts/4096084423780129/> 
WeChat: recording will be posted on OpenStack WeChat after the live stream

Speakers:
Paul Miller - Wind River
Mark Collier - Open Infrastructure Foundation
Ildiko Vancsa - Open Infrastructure Foundation

Have an idea for a future episode? Share it now at ideas.openinfra.live <https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfralive>. 

Thanks,
Ashlee

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