[openstack-community] Proposal: remove voting on speaking proposals for Barcelona Summit

Doug Hellmann doug at doughellmann.com
Thu May 19 13:30:53 UTC 2016


Excerpts from Lana Brindley's message of 2016-05-19 11:23:04 +1000:
> On 19/05/16 03:10, Richard Raseley wrote:
> > 
> >> On May 17, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Florian Haas <florian at hastexo.com <mailto:florian at hastexo.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have previously suggested a different approach: improve the *quality*
> >> of voting drastically, rather than abolish it altogether.
> >>
> >> Now what follows isn't a voting process of my own design. We owe the
> >> idea to a couple of professors of astronomy, who explain their approach
> >> in a paper and a couple of interviews, all of which are linked from here:
> >>
> >> https://plus.google.com/+FlorianHaas/posts/MsswaBHramG
> >>
> >> (Please note: I have deliberately disabled comments on that post, in an
> >> attempt to keep the discussion here on this list, where it belongs.)
> >>
> >> If you care about the process, please take a few minutes to review at
> >> least both videos linked from that post. If you're *really* interested,
> >> read the article as well -- but for the purposes of this discussion, the
> >> videos should suffice.
> > 
> > Florian,
> > 
> > I appreciate your comments in this thread and agree with them nearly entirely.
> > 
> > I think those who want to completely eliminate the vote, while well intentioned, would be doing a disservice to the community and ultimately OpenStack itself. 
> > 
> > I very strongly support the idea of evolving the voting process to try to enhance its value rather than doing away with it entirely. The method you’ve proposed seems like a reasonable place to start.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> 
> I'm actually really starting to like Florian's proposed method, with one exception: I don't like the idea of limiting it to talk submitters. The reason I say this is that, before I was a PTL, I submitted talks to every summit. That stopped when I became a PTL because, quite simply, I spend most of my time running sessions in the Design Summit, only popping over to the main conference for the talks I absolutely don't want to miss. I think by limiting the voting to only people submitting talks, you will miss the voice of people who deliberately *don't* submit a talk, because they're massively invested in other aspects of the conference, especially those on the more technical side of the house.
> 
> Perhaps, instead of limiting it to talk submitters, maybe make it available to a different subset: people who have attended previously, maybe?
> 
> Lana 
> 

EuroPython limits voting to conference attendees. I don't know how much
the votes factor into talk selection, but I could ask someone on the
program committee if that would be useful.

Doug



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