Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative. Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards Sijo Thomas
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
Hi Thierry, thanks for the update.
We currently allow dedicated users to update the wiki. No anonymous updates. The current Atlassian contract will expire by Feb 2024.
Regards Sijo Thomas
-----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:24 PM To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
Hi Sijo,
Given the deadline we'd like to propose a similar setup that we created for the OpenInfra board of directors[0]. It's based on a modern, open source lightweight system called wiki.js[1] and we have been using it successfully for over a year now.
[0] https://board.openinfra.dev/ [1] https://js.wiki/
It supports OpenInfraID for authentication, so we can leverage that instead of requiring a separate set of users. It's built for documentation websites rather than wikipedia-like wikis, which I think will work well for you. There is also the possibility to tie it to a git repository[2] to allow updates through commits rather than the UI.
[2] https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git
Please let us know if that solution would work for you, and we'll have OpenInfra staff spin an instance for you. At that point we'd give you admin access to the instance so that you can customize it to your liking.
Regards,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi Thierry, thanks for the update.
We currently allow dedicated users to update the wiki. No anonymous updates. The current Atlassian contract will expire by Feb 2024.
Regards Sijo Thomas
-----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:24 PM To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
Hi Sijo and Robert,
Have you had time to consider the proposal below? Want to make sure you have a solution before the Atlassian renewal hits.
Thierry
Thierry Carrez wrote on Nov 30:
Hi Sijo,
Given the deadline we'd like to propose a similar setup that we created for the OpenInfra board of directors[0]. It's based on a modern, open source lightweight system called wiki.js[1] and we have been using it successfully for over a year now.
[0] https://board.openinfra.dev/ [1] https://js.wiki/
It supports OpenInfraID for authentication, so we can leverage that instead of requiring a separate set of users. It's built for documentation websites rather than wikipedia-like wikis, which I think will work well for you. There is also the possibility to tie it to a git repository[2] to allow updates through commits rather than the UI.
[2] https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git
Please let us know if that solution would work for you, and we'll have OpenInfra staff spin an instance for you. At that point we'd give you admin access to the instance so that you can customize it to your liking.
Regards,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi Thierry, thanks for the update.
We currently allow dedicated users to update the wiki. No anonymous updates. The current Atlassian contract will expire by Feb 2024.
Regards Sijo Thomas
-----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:24 PM To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
Hi Thierry,
We are already using the js.wiki for our internal documentation tool and we have a mixed experience about it. When it's easy to use and looks modern, there is difficult to find things in it and it's not structured clearly.
There is another thing we could try but I think we need to get a go ahead from OpenInfra before we do it. We could still use the Confluence after 15th Feb but it have to be as part of Atlassian cloud [0] service. [0] https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence In order to do that I need to request an OpenSource license. Can I try this and see if we will be granted one?
Best regards Robert
________________________________ From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Monday 11 December 2023 13:05 To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo and Robert,
Have you had time to consider the proposal below? Want to make sure you have a solution before the Atlassian renewal hits.
Thierry
Thierry Carrez wrote on Nov 30:
Hi Sijo,
Given the deadline we'd like to propose a similar setup that we created for the OpenInfra board of directors[0]. It's based on a modern, open source lightweight system called wiki.js[1] and we have been using it successfully for over a year now.
[0] https://board.openinfra.dev/ [1] https://js.wiki/
It supports OpenInfraID for authentication, so we can leverage that instead of requiring a separate set of users. It's built for documentation websites rather than wikipedia-like wikis, which I think will work well for you. There is also the possibility to tie it to a git repository[2] to allow updates through commits rather than the UI.
[2] https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git
Please let us know if that solution would work for you, and we'll have OpenInfra staff spin an instance for you. At that point we'd give you admin access to the instance so that you can customize it to your liking.
Regards,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi Thierry, thanks for the update.
We currently allow dedicated users to update the wiki. No anonymous updates. The current Atlassian contract will expire by Feb 2024.
Regards Sijo Thomas
-----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:24 PM To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
Definitely worth a try! Keep us posted. Thierry
Robert Tomczyk wrote:
Hi Thierry,
We are already using the js.wiki for our internal documentation tool and we have a mixed experience about it. When it's easy to use and looks modern, there is difficult to find things in it and it's not structured clearly.
There is another thing we could try but I think we need to get a go ahead from OpenInfra before we do it. We could still use the Confluence after 15^th Feb but it have to be as part of Atlassian cloud [0] service. [0] https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence In order to do that I need to request an OpenSource license. Can I try this and see if we will be granted one?
Best regards Robert
*From:* Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org *Sent:* Monday 11 December 2023 13:05 *To:* Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech *Cc:* Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev *Subject:* Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra Hi Sijo and Robert,
Have you had time to consider the proposal below? Want to make sure you have a solution before the Atlassian renewal hits.
Thierry
Thierry Carrez wrote on Nov 30:
Hi Sijo,
Given the deadline we'd like to propose a similar setup that we created for the OpenInfra board of directors[0]. It's based on a modern, open source lightweight system called wiki.js[1] and we have been using it successfully for over a year now.
[0] https://board.openinfra.dev/ https://board.openinfra.dev/ [1] https://js.wiki/ https://js.wiki/
It supports OpenInfraID for authentication, so we can leverage that instead of requiring a separate set of users. It's built for documentation websites rather than wikipedia-like wikis, which I think will work well for you. There is also the possibility to tie it to a git repository[2] to allow updates through commits rather than the UI.
[2] https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git
Please let us know if that solution would work for you, and we'll have OpenInfra staff spin an instance for you. At that point we'd give you admin access to the instance so that you can customize it to your liking.
Regards,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi Thierry, thanks for the update.
We currently allow dedicated users to update the wiki. No anonymous updates. The current Atlassian contract will expire by Feb 2024.
Regards Sijo Thomas
-----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:24 PM To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
Hi Thierry,
We just got granted the Atlassian Open Source license for our Nordix environment: "We are happy to grant you the requested Open Source Cloud subscription. Your Atlassian Cloud Instance xxxxxxxxxxx.atlassian.net has been converted to Open Source." I will look at the migration options next week.
Best regards Robert ________________________________ From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Friday 22 December 2023 15:26 To: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: nordix@lists.openinfra.dev nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Definitely worth a try! Keep us posted. Thierry
Robert Tomczyk wrote:
Hi Thierry,
We are already using the js.wiki for our internal documentation tool
and we have a mixed experience about it. When it's easy to use and looks modern, there is difficult to find things in it and it's not structured clearly.
There is another thing we could try but I think we need to get a go
ahead from OpenInfra before we do it. We could still use the Confluence after 15^th Feb but it have to be as part of Atlassian cloud [0] service. [0] https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence https://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence In order to do that I need to request an OpenSource license. Can I try this and see if we will be granted one?
Best regards Robert
*From:* Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org *Sent:* Monday 11 December 2023 13:05 *To:* Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech *Cc:* Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev *Subject:* Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra Hi Sijo and Robert,
Have you had time to consider the proposal below? Want to make sure you have a solution before the Atlassian renewal hits.
Thierry
Thierry Carrez wrote on Nov 30:
Hi Sijo,
Given the deadline we'd like to propose a similar setup that we created for the OpenInfra board of directors[0]. It's based on a modern, open source lightweight system called wiki.js[1] and we have been using it successfully for over a year now.
[0] https://board.openinfra.dev/ https://board.openinfra.dev/ [1] https://js.wiki/ https://js.wiki/
It supports OpenInfraID for authentication, so we can leverage that instead of requiring a separate set of users. It's built for documentation websites rather than wikipedia-like wikis, which I think will work well for you. There is also the possibility to tie it to a git repository[2] to allow updates through commits rather than the UI.
[2] https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git https://docs.requarks.io/storage/git
Please let us know if that solution would work for you, and we'll have OpenInfra staff spin an instance for you. At that point we'd give you admin access to the instance so that you can customize it to your liking.
Regards,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi Thierry, thanks for the update.
We currently allow dedicated users to update the wiki. No anonymous updates. The current Atlassian contract will expire by Feb 2024.
Regards Sijo Thomas
-----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez thierry@openstack.org Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 1:24 PM To: Sijo Thomas Maliakkal sijo.thomas.maliakkal@est.tech Cc: Robert Tomczyk robert.tomczyk@est.tech; nordix@lists.openinfra.dev; Jeremy Stanley jeremy@openinfra.dev; Clark Boylan clark@openinfra.dev Subject: Re: WIKI alternate Options for Openinfra
Hi Sijo Thomas and Robert,
We don't have a specific solution to propose at this time. The only wiki we have on OpenDev right now is wiki.openstack.org (based on Mediawiki), but we have been trying to get rid of it as it is a nightmare to maintain and we spend a lot of time moderating it for spam.
Give us some time to evaluate what open source solutions we could consider. Am I right in assuming this "wiki" would actually not have anonymous read/write users, and is meant more as a lightweight documentation website with a few designated editors? Is there a specific deadline for this transition (like an Atlassian contract renewal date) that we should factor in?
Thanks,
Thierry
Sijo Thomas Maliakkal wrote:
Hi folks, I am from Nordix openinfra team. We are looking for other solution for Nordix wiki service as currently we hosted this on Atlassian Confluence. We need to get rid of this Atlassian solution and go for more realistic opensource alternative.
Can you let us know what existing solution used in Openinfra area for wiki solutions which we can adopt for Nordix projects.
Our requirement is an opensource collaborative solution for Nordix projects documentation purpose.
Regards
Sijo Thomas
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