Looking for volunteers to lead Interoperability working group
Hi, newly-elected and returning board members, During the last meeting, Alan called for new volunteers to join board committees like the Compensation committee or the Finance committee. While not strictly a committee, the Interoperability working group (formerly known as DefCore committee) is a OSF board working group that leads the definition of new versions of our Interoperability guidelines, which are used to grant the rights to use various trademarks such as "OpenStack-Powered platform". The group was previously led by Egle Sigler and Mark Voelker, who as of 2020 are no longer part of the board. Its main task is to get consensus on which APIs are necessary to be offered and which sections of code are necessary to be run to call your deployment "an OpenStack cloud". Technically, that translates into the definition of a set of Tempest tests matching the required API calls, so that products and deployments can assert the trademark through a suite of tools called RefStack. This work is critical in driving interoperability between OpenStack deployments, which is an essential benefit of using OpenStack software in hybrid usage scenarios. Representing all facets of our community, the Board is uniquely positioned to define what that consensus looks like and evolve it over time. Who is interested in participating in that workgroup ? I'm available to answer any question you may have about the process, and for questions I don't have the answer to, I copied Egle on this email so that she can bring additional context if needed. Thanks! -- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
Thierry, Is the ask for one of board members to take over overseer responsibility for interop group? Or just have more participation in interop group? Or something else? Thanks, Arkady -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 10:18 AM To: <foundation-board@lists.openstack.org> Cc: Egle Sigler Subject: [Foundation Board] Looking for volunteers to lead Interoperability working group [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Hi, newly-elected and returning board members, During the last meeting, Alan called for new volunteers to join board committees like the Compensation committee or the Finance committee. While not strictly a committee, the Interoperability working group (formerly known as DefCore committee) is a OSF board working group that leads the definition of new versions of our Interoperability guidelines, which are used to grant the rights to use various trademarks such as "OpenStack-Powered platform". The group was previously led by Egle Sigler and Mark Voelker, who as of 2020 are no longer part of the board. Its main task is to get consensus on which APIs are necessary to be offered and which sections of code are necessary to be run to call your deployment "an OpenStack cloud". Technically, that translates into the definition of a set of Tempest tests matching the required API calls, so that products and deployments can assert the trademark through a suite of tools called RefStack. This work is critical in driving interoperability between OpenStack deployments, which is an essential benefit of using OpenStack software in hybrid usage scenarios. Representing all facets of our community, the Board is uniquely positioned to define what that consensus looks like and evolve it over time. Who is interested in participating in that workgroup ? I'm available to answer any question you may have about the process, and for questions I don't have the answer to, I copied Egle on this email so that she can bring additional context if needed. Thanks! -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) _______________________________________________ Foundation-board mailing list Foundation-board@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation-board
Sure,I had participated in this with Sean Rob and Rocky and aware of the flow, let us review first the 5H1W approach to define Collect data points to prove the assumption below. Why: Interoperability has become need of the hour, under both market, secutity & privacy and political impact of country first globally. Who: Service providers seek Interoperability to choose best of the breed clouds for next gen workloads , maintaining legacy and moving to ZTP, CI/CD, LCM to cut Capex, Opex and TTM through Clouded native Build and Deploy cycles. When and Where: Before SP move workloads to BM Containers, CNF from VM and VNFs and use both approaches for Multi and Hybrid Clouds. How soon? Depends between now and 5G scale deployments. All this will show up in their DC at Network Edge as opposed to Central Cloud. What: Get the CSP and SP or Gov NOCs an Interoperable BM platform with validated Designs for workload movements and hence Interoperable between current ang future Cloud innovations both Multi and Hybrid clouds. HowOpenStack and Open Infra can play it's role as below.1. Intra OpenStack api confornance status for T+U released. Which Vendors habe motivation to seek compliance for OpenSrack and hence updates needed to Tempest test suites for the Delta or feature gaps. 2. Cloud Interoperability goals to try evolve strategy for BM cloud as part of Open Infrastructure initiative. Will this intrest GSMA CNTT folks and Intel to promote this? Can we use Prowl , ltmg, Jenkins +x along with Zuul working with Metal and Airship , which are part of our eco system? Other wish list we can add but giving a push to what ttx strongly believes, we need to review and gather resources to address. With Arkady showing interest I believe Dell, Ericson, Mirantis, Redhat and AT&T should be sought to help themselves through this initiative. TTX Please find a bridge and let's get intrested members to the call next or weeks as ee plan March F2F board meeting. ThanksPrakash. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:31 AM, Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com<Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com> wrote: Thierry, Is the ask for one of board members to take over overseer responsibility for interop group? Or just have more participation in interop group? Or something else? Thanks, Arkady -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 10:18 AM To: <foundation-board@lists.openstack.org> Cc: Egle Sigler Subject: [Foundation Board] Looking for volunteers to lead Interoperability working group [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Hi, newly-elected and returning board members, During the last meeting, Alan called for new volunteers to join board committees like the Compensation committee or the Finance committee. While not strictly a committee, the Interoperability working group (formerly known as DefCore committee) is a OSF board working group that leads the definition of new versions of our Interoperability guidelines, which are used to grant the rights to use various trademarks such as "OpenStack-Powered platform". The group was previously led by Egle Sigler and Mark Voelker, who as of 2020 are no longer part of the board. Its main task is to get consensus on which APIs are necessary to be offered and which sections of code are necessary to be run to call your deployment "an OpenStack cloud". Technically, that translates into the definition of a set of Tempest tests matching the required API calls, so that products and deployments can assert the trademark through a suite of tools called RefStack. This work is critical in driving interoperability between OpenStack deployments, which is an essential benefit of using OpenStack software in hybrid usage scenarios. Representing all facets of our community, the Board is uniquely positioned to define what that consensus looks like and evolve it over time. Who is interested in participating in that workgroup ? I'm available to answer any question you may have about the process, and for questions I don't have the answer to, I copied Egle on this email so that she can bring additional context if needed. Thanks! -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) _______________________________________________ Foundation-board mailing list Foundation-board@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation-board _______________________________________________ Foundation-board mailing list Foundation-board@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation-board
Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com wrote:
Is the ask for one of board members to take over overseer responsibility for interop group? Or just have more participation in interop group? Or something else?
At this point the group is empty, so I'd say that in order to be successful we need new leaders to take over and drive future guidelines evolution. I'm sure former participants can answer questions and provide some context, but new blood is definitely needed. Regards, -- Thierry
Thanks Thierry. Either Prakash or me or both will follow with Egle. I would like to follow on the impact of interop. Maybe cover it in questionnaire. Thanks, Arkady -----Original Message----- From: Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 7:29 AM To: Kanevsky, Arkady; foundation-board@lists.openstack.org Cc: egle.sigler@rackspace.com Subject: Re: [Foundation Board] Looking for volunteers to lead Interoperability working group [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com wrote:
Is the ask for one of board members to take over overseer responsibility for interop group? Or just have more participation in interop group? Or something else?
At this point the group is empty, so I'd say that in order to be successful we need new leaders to take over and drive future guidelines evolution. I'm sure former participants can answer questions and provide some context, but new blood is definitely needed. Regards, -- Thierry
Hi all, I am attending TC meeting tomorrow. Like to understand the non-operation of this efforts since queens. 1) Based on this the next logical release to attempt guidelines for Interop will need to be for ussuri (2020.6) blueprint submission. That will mean a break for rocky, stein & train. Any comments on the scope due to break? https://opendev.org/openstack/refstack/src/branch/master/specs/ 2) The blueprint still is still based on launchpad and the Tempest is using storyboard. Will this have any impact on blueprint submissions and API change guidelines for API v2.1 as needed for Microservice based testings. 3) Can we compile polling questions to ask which of the promoters are interested in a) Specifying "Openstack Powered" or compliance as a requirements for their RFPs b) Vendors ready to test their Products as Openstack Powered? / OpenStack Releases starting R,S,T,U? c) Volunteers from community ready to help build the blueprint for 2020.6 or any that may be approved but may or may not be Implemented for missed releases? d) Do we have budget to outsource the work from third party or we just enlist few who can be used by Vendors to pay get their job done? Please advice if we can add this discussions either to Ineterop WG to schedule this during TC office hours or should we propose a new meeting say weekly going forward? ThanksPrakash On Tuesday, February 25, 2020, 05:20:47 AM GMT+5:30, Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote: Arkady.Kanevsky@dell.com wrote:
Is the ask for one of board members to take over overseer responsibility for interop group? Or just have more participation in interop group? Or something else?
At this point the group is empty, so I'd say that in order to be successful we need new leaders to take over and drive future guidelines evolution. I'm sure former participants can answer questions and provide some context, but new blood is definitely needed. Regards, -- Thierry _______________________________________________ Foundation-board mailing list Foundation-board@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation-board
Hi Thierry, Thanks for bringing this up! Egle and Mark have done very good work and I want to express my gratefulness to them! I have participated in that group before, though unfortunately have not been able to do so in 2019. I am willing and able to participate again, but I don't have the depth that Egle and Mark have. I'm certainly happy to help and be the liaison to the board. And I fully agree that this WG continues to be very important! @Egle: Please share your thoughts how this can work out! Thanks, -- Kurt On 21 February 2020 17:18:14 CET, Thierry Carrez <thierry@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi, newly-elected and returning board members,
During the last meeting, Alan called for new volunteers to join board committees like the Compensation committee or the Finance committee.
While not strictly a committee, the Interoperability working group (formerly known as DefCore committee) is a OSF board working group that
leads the definition of new versions of our Interoperability guidelines, which are used to grant the rights to use various trademarks such as "OpenStack-Powered platform".
The group was previously led by Egle Sigler and Mark Voelker, who as of
2020 are no longer part of the board. Its main task is to get consensus
on which APIs are necessary to be offered and which sections of code are necessary to be run to call your deployment "an OpenStack cloud". Technically, that translates into the definition of a set of Tempest tests matching the required API calls, so that products and deployments
can assert the trademark through a suite of tools called RefStack.
This work is critical in driving interoperability between OpenStack deployments, which is an essential benefit of using OpenStack software in hybrid usage scenarios. Representing all facets of our community, the Board is uniquely positioned to define what that consensus looks like and evolve it over time.
Who is interested in participating in that workgroup ? I'm available to
answer any question you may have about the process, and for questions I
don't have the answer to, I copied Egle on this email so that she can bring additional context if needed.
Thanks!
-- Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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participants (4)
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Arkady.Kanevsky＠dell.com
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Kurt Garloff
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prakash RAMCHANDRAN
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Thierry Carrez