Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: https://trello.com/b/VsS5MMPs The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card. Thank you! Tim On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote:
Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something.
Shinobu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote:
Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit :
Hi Tim,
That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos.
So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter, I'm leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the Paris Upstream Training.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream Training modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me if needed.
-Sylvain
Cheers
On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote:
On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
Hello folks,
I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream Training can be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too.
The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support.
We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process:
- create the eventbrite page - keep track of participants - check/update the training material - get the legos - etc...
After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements that it's worth incorporating in this edition.
Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition?
I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate.
Thanks,
Tim
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Tim, You can count me in. I’d be happy to help in the effort. TC Tony Campbell Director, Learning and Development OpenStack Innovation Center Rackspace Phone: 1 (210) 312-4150 On Jul 25, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Tim Freund <tim@freunds.net<mailto:tim@freunds.net>> wrote: Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: https://trello.com/b/VsS5MMPs The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card. Thank you! Tim On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote: Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something. Shinobu On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com<mailto:sbauza@redhat.com> <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote: Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit : Hi Tim, That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos. So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter, I'm leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the Paris Upstream Training. Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream Training modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me if needed. -Sylvain Cheers On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote: On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: Hello folks, I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream Training can be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too. The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support. We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process: - create the eventbrite page - keep track of participants - check/update the training material - get the legos - etc... After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements that it's worth incorporating in this edition. Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition? I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate. Thanks, Tim _______________________________________________ Community mailing list Community@lists.openstack.org<mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community _______________________________________________ Community mailing list Community@lists.openstack.org<mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community -- Email: shinobu@linux.com<mailto:shinobu@linux.com> <mailto:shinobu@linux.com> skinjo@redhat.com<mailto:skinjo@redhat.com> <mailto:skinjo@redhat.com> Life w/ Linux <http://i-shinobu.hatenablog.com/> -- Tim Freund 913-207-0983 | @timfreund http://tim.freunds.net<http://tim.freunds.net/> _______________________________________________ Community mailing list Community@lists.openstack.org<mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
Great to see so many people stepping up: thank you. On 07/25/2015 06:50 AM, Tony Campbell wrote:
You can count me in. I’d be happy to help in the effort.
One area of improvement is the way we handle registration and track progress of trainees. In the past we have used Eventbrite to manage the registration and google spreadsheet+trello to track trainees progress. The main issue is that we have lots of cancellations on Eventbrite: since the event is free, many people sign up without reading fully what the event really is. Ideally, we want the applicants to start studying before they show up to be trained, so that they have already good questions to ask and doubts to clear. Also, they'd manage to engage with trainers and mentors ahead of time. In this ideal world, as soon as someone expresses interest in Upstream Training, that person is matched with a mentor and starts getting ready. I'm thinking that this time instead of Eventbrite we may use a google Form to collect candidates and engage them with mentors immediately, as they sign up. We may quickly put something together with Forms, IFTT or zapier and Trello. The process would look like this: 1) signup on Google Forms, zapier creates a new card on Trello with the details. 2) mentor picks up the card, engages with candidate, looks for a bug to work on, sets a communication channel (IRC preferrably): - if candidate engages, the spot is assigned and training continues in Tokyo - if candidate doesn't respond to mentor, the card is marked 'inactive' and the spot considered free for Tokyo 3) after the in person training in Tokyo, mentorship continues and cards are moved forward as the trainee progresses. How does this look? /stef
On 07/27/2015 02:02 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
Ideally, we want the applicants to start studying before they show up to be trained, so that they have already good questions to ask and doubts to clear. Also, they'd manage to engage with trainers and mentors ahead of time. In this ideal world, as soon as someone expresses interest in Upstream Training, that person is matched with a mentor and starts getting ready.
I'm thinking that this time instead of Eventbrite we may use a google Form to collect candidates and engage them with mentors immediately, as they sign up. We may quickly put something together with Forms, IFTT or zapier and Trello.
The process would look like this:
1) signup on Google Forms, zapier creates a new card on Trello with the details. 2) mentor picks up the card, engages with candidate, looks for a bug to work on, sets a communication channel (IRC preferrably):
- if candidate engages, the spot is assigned and training continues in Tokyo - if candidate doesn't respond to mentor, the card is marked 'inactive' and the spot considered free for Tokyo
3) after the in person training in Tokyo, mentorship continues and cards are moved forward as the trainee progresses.
How does this look?
That sounds like a good plan. If we can get a lot of the mundane details out of the way before class, we can focus more attention on the OpenStack specific details. I started a Google form to collect information. What am I missing and what should I change? http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs One thought when we open registration: we can change the text of that form to warn students that we are putting them on a waiting list once we have exhausted all of our open positions. I'll get something started that will let us sync the form results to trello for progress tracking. Concerning mentors: should the automation automatically assign a mentor based on student interest area and mentor load? (Perhaps allow mentors to say how many students they are comfortable working with, and auto-assign up to that number.) Thanks, Tim -- Tim Freund 913-207-0983 | @timfreund http://tim.freunds.net
On 07/29/2015 01:29 PM, Tim Freund wrote:
I started a Google form to collect information. What am I missing and what should I change?
I would add business title below organization, so we know if we're dealing with developer, operator, product/project manager, etc. I also collected the salutation (and gender), so we can address the person in their favorite pronoun. I like the 'area of interest', which is more precise than what I used to collect. We also asked in the past (but I wonder if we really need them): - What is your level of proficiency with Free Software in general and its development processes? - Have you ever attempted submitting patches to a Free Software project? If so, please describe how it went: - Please summarize your professional experience, as a developer or otherwise: and to set the expectations: - What would you like to learn from this training program?
One thought when we open registration: we can change the text of that form to warn students that we are putting them on a waiting list once we have exhausted all of our open positions.
Makes sense, we can keep a counter on Trello
I'll get something started that will let us sync the form results to trello for progress tracking.
let me know if you need anything. Zapier was a pretty neat tool, although it may require a professional account (we can ask the foundation to pay for it, it's not that expensive).
Concerning mentors: should the automation automatically assign a mentor based on student interest area and mentor load? (Perhaps allow mentors to say how many students they are comfortable working with, and auto-assign up to that number.)
That's the biggest area of concern: we don't have a culture of mentors already established so for all the people who expressed interest in helping, they need to be trained to read this mailing list, be on IRC (which channel?) and follow the trello board and more. I'm not sure how to best manage the volunteers who have expressed the intention to help. /stef
Le 30/07/2015 04:23, Stefano Maffulli a écrit :
On 07/29/2015 01:29 PM, Tim Freund wrote:
I started a Google form to collect information. What am I missing and what should I change?
http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs I would add business title below organization, so we know if we're dealing with developer, operator, product/project manager, etc.
I also collected the salutation (and gender), so we can address the person in their favorite pronoun.
I like the 'area of interest', which is more precise than what I used to collect.
We also asked in the past (but I wonder if we really need them):
- What is your level of proficiency with Free Software in general and its development processes? - Have you ever attempted submitting patches to a Free Software project? If so, please describe how it went: - Please summarize your professional experience, as a developer or otherwise:
and to set the expectations:
- What would you like to learn from this training program?
I'd emphasize the very different situations I saw during the sessions where some people were not even knowing Linux, some others not yet using any DVS like SVN or git and some others really using them but just not listening to the sessions because they were playing with DevStack while others were trying to understand Git. Here, I just wonder if it would maybe be better to either ask for a certain level of technical proficiency before the Training, or split people in groups based on mutual skills ?
One thought when we open registration: we can change the text of that form to warn students that we are putting them on a waiting list once we have exhausted all of our open positions. Makes sense, we can keep a counter on Trello
I'll get something started that will let us sync the form results to trello for progress tracking. let me know if you need anything. Zapier was a pretty neat tool, although it may require a professional account (we can ask the foundation to pay for it, it's not that expensive).
Concerning mentors: should the automation automatically assign a mentor based on student interest area and mentor load? (Perhaps allow mentors to say how many students they are comfortable working with, and auto-assign up to that number.) That's the biggest area of concern: we don't have a culture of mentors already established so for all the people who expressed interest in helping, they need to be trained to read this mailing list, be on IRC (which channel?) and follow the trello board and more.
I'm not sure how to best manage the volunteers who have expressed the intention to help.
I'd rather try to consider what mentors are able to propose, and give that information to students so they could pick one, like we do for GSoC. Sometimes, picking low-hanging-fruits is really hard and leads to confusion, I'd rather make a call to volunteers to see what they can give time for mentoring. -Sylvain
/stef
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On 07/30/2015 03:25 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
Le 30/07/2015 04:23, Stefano Maffulli a écrit :
On 07/29/2015 01:29 PM, Tim Freund wrote:
I started a Google form to collect information. What am I missing and what should I change?
http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs I would add business title below organization, so we know if we're dealing with developer, operator, product/project manager, etc.
I also collected the salutation (and gender), so we can address the person in their favorite pronoun.
I like the 'area of interest', which is more precise than what I used to collect.
We also asked in the past (but I wonder if we really need them):
- What is your level of proficiency with Free Software in general and its development processes? - Have you ever attempted submitting patches to a Free Software project? If so, please describe how it went: - Please summarize your professional experience, as a developer or otherwise:
and to set the expectations:
- What would you like to learn from this training program?
Here, I just wonder if it would maybe be better to either ask for a certain level of technical proficiency before the Training, or split people in groups based on mutual skills ?
I really like these questions, they're insightful and I think it would be a great idea to split people into mutual skills. I think mentorship works well when you have a mentor and have someone someone at your same level who you can encourage and grow with. It would also be good to mention that the questions are just to determine technical skill placement in a group and not discourage people from attending the training.
Concerning mentors: should the automation automatically assign a mentor based on student interest area and mentor load? (Perhaps allow mentors to say how many students they are comfortable working with, and auto-assign up to that number.) That's the biggest area of concern: we don't have a culture of mentors already established so for all the people who expressed interest in helping, they need to be trained to read this mailing list, be on IRC (which channel?) and follow the trello board and more.
I'm not sure how to best manage the volunteers who have expressed the intention to help.
I'd rather try to consider what mentors are able to propose, and give that information to students so they could pick one, like we do for GSoC.
Sometimes, picking low-hanging-fruits is really hard and leads to confusion, I'd rather make a call to volunteers to see what they can give time for mentoring.
-Sylvain
Have any of the previous participants volunteered as mentors (or perhaps co-mentors)? It would be really beneficial to have some co-mentors that are not as experienced and completed the program. It would certainly take a load of current mentors. I'm not sure what the retention rate for the program is or if we keep track, but how does adding a question to the survey asking if they'd be willing to mentor or co-mentor someone in the future upstream training sound like a good idea? It would make the program more sustainable and encourage a culture of mentoring beginners. --Cindy
On 08/02/2015 08:51 PM, Cindy Pallares wrote:
On 07/30/2015 03:25 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
Le 30/07/2015 04:23, Stefano Maffulli a écrit :
On 07/29/2015 01:29 PM, Tim Freund wrote:
I started a Google form to collect information. What am I missing and what should I change?
http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs I would add business title below organization, so we know if we're dealing with developer, operator, product/project manager, etc.
Good point! I added a title field. For anyone just joining the thread, here's the form URL: http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs
I also collected the salutation (and gender), so we can address the person in their favorite pronoun.
I started adding a gender field, and I did some research on best practices for creating an inclusive field. It seems like the general consensus is to skip collecting it if it is not strictly necessary. Unless we are tracking gender diversity of our students, I'd lean toward leaving it off the list entirely.
We also asked in the past (but I wonder if we really need them):
- What is your level of proficiency with Free Software in general and its development processes? - Have you ever attempted submitting patches to a Free Software project? If so, please describe how it went: - Please summarize your professional experience, as a developer or otherwise:
and to set the expectations:
- What would you like to learn from this training program?
I have added the following three questions to collect this experience information: - Please summarize your professional experience - Tell us about your past open source experience - What do you hope to gain from this training?
Here, I just wonder if it would maybe be better to either ask for a certain level of technical proficiency before the Training, or split people in groups based on mutual skills ?
I really like these questions, they're insightful and I think it would be a great idea to split people into mutual skills. I think mentorship works well when you have a mentor and have someone someone at your same level who you can encourage and grow with. It would also be good to mention that the questions are just to determine technical skill placement in a group and not discourage people from attending the training.
I've clarified our experience questions to let potential attendees know that we accept all potential contributors, and their answers will help us tailor the class to their needs.
Concerning mentors: should the automation automatically assign a mentor based on student interest area and mentor load? (Perhaps allow mentors to say how many students they are comfortable working with, and auto-assign up to that number.) That's the biggest area of concern: we don't have a culture of mentors already established so for all the people who expressed interest in helping, they need to be trained to read this mailing list, be on IRC (which channel?) and follow the trello board and more.
I'm not sure how to best manage the volunteers who have expressed the intention to help.
I've created a separate form that could help us collect more information from potential mentors: http://goo.gl/forms/fczq3NZ16g The form collects information that will allow us to avoid overburdening mentors with too many students, and assign students with similar interests. The form asks mentors to subscribe to openstack-community and join the #upstream-university IRC channel. Should we have an OpenStack specific upstream channel? We should engage potential mentors right away, just like we engage potential students. If that form looks good, I can post it to the openstack-dev mailing list to request volunteers.
I'd rather try to consider what mentors are able to propose, and give that information to students so they could pick one, like we do for GSoC.
Does the form collect that information? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with the GSoC mentor/student process, but I'm happy to learn more if you can point me in the right direction.
Sometimes, picking low-hanging-fruits is really hard and leads to confusion, I'd rather make a call to volunteers to see what they can give time for mentoring.
-Sylvain
Have any of the previous participants volunteered as mentors (or perhaps co-mentors)? It would be really beneficial to have some co-mentors that are not as experienced and completed the program. It would certainly take a load of current mentors. I'm not sure what the retention rate for the program is or if we keep track, but how does adding a question to the survey asking if they'd be willing to mentor or co-mentor someone in the future upstream training sound like a good idea? It would make the program more sustainable and encourage a culture of mentoring beginners.
Definitely! I think we've had assistants from each previous class join subsequent classes to help students, although we haven't fully utilized them in the weekly mentoring that follows the classes. Other work: I started working on a script that will use gspread[1] and mailgun[2] to collect student and mentor data and start the student communication. I'll report back when I have a demo working (later today, if there are no emergencies). [1] https://github.com/burnash/gspread [2] https://mailgun.com (free under 10K messages a month, and our Rackspace volunteers can probably find us help if we run into issues) I'm also going to work on a proof of concept system that would allow us to track student achievement before/during/after the training. We talked a little about this idea in our debrief from last time: students and mentors will be able to go to a page and see past progress as well as potential opportunities for future progress. Request for assistance: I have a virtual host that will redirect to the registration form: http://openstack-upstream.freunds.net/register We can change the target of that redirect when the class is full. What's the best way to implement a redirect on a openstack.org web host? Alternatively, I configured mine to accept requests as upstream.openstack.org if we want to create that CNAME. I'd like to get registration opened by the middle of this week. More to come - questions and comments are welcome, as always. Tim -- Tim Freund 913-207-0983 | @timfreund http://tim.freunds.net
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Tim Freund <tim@freunds.net> wrote:
I started adding a gender field, and I did some research on best practices for creating an inclusive field. It seems like the general consensus is to skip collecting it if it is not strictly necessary. Unless we are tracking gender diversity of our students, I'd lean toward leaving it off the list entirely.
+1 on omitting.
On 08/03/2015 12:27 PM, Tim Freund wrote:
I'm also going to work on a proof of concept system that would allow us to track student achievement before/during/after the training. We talked a little about this idea in our debrief from last time: students and mentors will be able to go to a page and see past progress as well as potential opportunities for future progress.
Request for assistance:
I have a virtual host that will redirect to the registration form: http://openstack-upstream.freunds.net/register
We can change the target of that redirect when the class is full. What's the best way to implement a redirect on a openstack.org web host? Alternatively, I configured mine to accept requests as upstream.openstack.org if we want to create that CNAME.
I'd like to get registration opened by the middle of this week.
More to come - questions and comments are welcome, as always.
Tim
Anyone willing to test the registration forms should get an email within 5 minutes confirming their registration: - Student registration form: http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs - Mentor registration form: http://goo.gl/forms/fczq3NZ16g Other links of interest: - Trello board of students: https://trello.com/b/j7TX9oUw - Registration cron job: https://github.com/timfreund/openstack-upstream-registrar - Trello board for planning: https://trello.com/b/VsS5MMPs/ Thanks, Tim -- Tim Freund 913-207-0983 | @timfreund http://tim.freunds.net
On 04/08/15 14:24, Tim Freund wrote:
On 08/03/2015 12:27 PM, Tim Freund wrote:
I'm also going to work on a proof of concept system that would allow us to track student achievement before/during/after the training. We talked a little about this idea in our debrief from last time: students and mentors will be able to go to a page and see past progress as well as potential opportunities for future progress.
Request for assistance:
I have a virtual host that will redirect to the registration form: http://openstack-upstream.freunds.net/register
We can change the target of that redirect when the class is full. What's the best way to implement a redirect on a openstack.org web host? Alternatively, I configured mine to accept requests as upstream.openstack.org if we want to create that CNAME.
I'd like to get registration opened by the middle of this week.
More to come - questions and comments are welcome, as always.
Tim
Anyone willing to test the registration forms should get an email within 5 minutes confirming their registration:
- Student registration form: http://goo.gl/forms/qAr3N8rdYs - Mentor registration form: http://goo.gl/forms/fczq3NZ16g
I tested the student form and it looked good and the followup email worked :)
Other links of interest:
- Trello board of students: https://trello.com/b/j7TX9oUw
- Registration cron job: https://github.com/timfreund/openstack-upstream-registrar
- Trello board for planning: https://trello.com/b/VsS5MMPs/
Thanks,
Tim
Hi Tim, Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ? Cheers On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote:
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process:
The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email.
I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card.
Thank you!
Tim
On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote:
Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something.
Shinobu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote:
Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit :
Hi Tim,
That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos.
So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter, I'm leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the Paris Upstream Training.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream Training modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me if needed.
-Sylvain
Cheers
On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote:
On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
Hello folks,
I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream Training can be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too.
The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support.
We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process:
- create the eventbrite page - keep track of participants - check/update the training material - get the legos - etc...
After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements that it's worth incorporating in this edition.
Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition?
I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate.
Thanks,
Tim
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Hi Loic - That is a good point! I have moved the registration and first contact to August (the earlier the better). Thanks, Tim On 07/25/2015 11:25 AM, Loic Dachary wrote:
Hi Tim,
Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ?
Cheers
On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote:
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process:
The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email.
I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card.
Thank you!
Tim
On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote:
Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something.
Shinobu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote:
Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit :
Hi Tim,
That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos.
So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter, I'm leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the Paris Upstream Training.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream Training modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me if needed.
-Sylvain
Cheers
On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote:
On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
Hello folks,
I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream Training can be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too.
The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support.
We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process:
- create the eventbrite page - keep track of participants - check/update the training material - get the legos - etc...
After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements that it's worth incorporating in this edition.
Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition?
I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate.
Thanks,
Tim
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Hi Loic, and all, I am happy to support Upstream Training in Tokyo! Japan OpenStack User Group already had done Upstream Training in Japan version 3 times, so we have support you in many ways. Of-course, we are living in Tokyo. Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Freund [mailto:tim@freunds.net] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:48 AM To: Loic Dachary; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi Loic -
That is a good point! I have moved the registration and first contact to August (the earlier the better).
Thanks,
Tim
Hi Tim,
Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but
On 07/25/2015 11:25 AM, Loic Dachary wrote: that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ?
Cheers
On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote:
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work
The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone
interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to
I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as
necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card.
Thank you!
Tim
On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote:
Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something.
Shinobu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote:
Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit :
Hi Tim,
That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't
have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos.
So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter,
I'm
leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the
Paris
Upstream Training.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream
Training
modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me
if
needed.
-Sylvain
Cheers
On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote:
On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > Hello folks, > > I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream
Training can
> be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and > Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more > volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have > enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too. > > The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference > kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for > this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support. > > We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process: > > - create the eventbrite page > - keep track of participants > - check/update the training material > - get the legos > - etc... > > After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements
last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. that it's
> worth incorporating in this edition. > > Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition? I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate.
Thanks,
Tim
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Hi, Great :-) I was planning to fly over with 40 to 80 pounds of lego spare parts (that's what I have at home). But we also need pre-built buildings such as the one at http://dachary.org/loic/upun-6-7/. In Paris we had six prebuilt buildings (one for 10 participants) and it made for a great display at the end http://dachary.org/loic/group2.jpg We tried shipping the existing pre-built buildings but found that it's quite difficult because they are fragile (therefore likely to break and probably take more time to repair than to build a new one from scratch) and long distance shipping of fragile items is almost as expensive than buying new ones. A solution that worked in Atlanta was to buy lego sets and have them delivered to someone local and willing to assemble them and bring them with her/him to the training (thanks again to Chris Ricker for that ;-). The bonus being that the person gets to keep the lego afterwards (makes children very happy ;) because they cannot be conveniently shipped to the next training location. In Vancouver legos were hired from a local lego company. And the legos from the Paris training are in my attic in Paris should someone need them for training in this area. Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-) Cheers On 26/07/2015 09:51, Takashi Torii wrote:
Hi Loic, and all,
I am happy to support Upstream Training in Tokyo!
Japan OpenStack User Group already had done Upstream Training in Japan version 3 times, so we have support you in many ways. Of-course, we are living in Tokyo.
Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Freund [mailto:tim@freunds.net] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:48 AM To: Loic Dachary; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi Loic -
That is a good point! I have moved the registration and first contact to August (the earlier the better).
Thanks,
Tim
Hi Tim,
Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but
On 07/25/2015 11:25 AM, Loic Dachary wrote: that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ?
Cheers
On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote:
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work
The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone
interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to
I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as
necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card.
Thank you!
Tim
On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote:
Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something.
Shinobu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote:
Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit :
Hi Tim,
That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't
have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos.
So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter,
I'm
leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the
Paris
Upstream Training.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream
Training
modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me
if
needed.
-Sylvain
Cheers
On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote: > On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream
Training can
>> be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and >> Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more >> volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have >> enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too. >> >> The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference >> kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for >> this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support. >> >> We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process: >> >> - create the eventbrite page >> - keep track of participants >> - check/update the training material >> - get the legos >> - etc... >> >> After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements
last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. that it's
>> worth incorporating in this edition. >> >> Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition? > I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate. > > Thanks, > > Tim > > >
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Hi Loic,
Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-)
We have several box of Lego Classic, we don't have any set of house, castle etc. Our Upstream Training was about 30 students maximum, so it is not sufficient for the next training in Tokyo (approximately 50 to 60 people?). I have started discussing with other members what we can do. The simple one is we will help pre-build using your parts and our parts before the training. We can carry the assembled Lego by taxi to the venue. Other options are preparing more parts in Japan by purchasing. Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Loic Dachary [mailto:loic@dachary.org] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 5:32 PM To: Torii Takashi(鳥居 隆史); Tim Freund; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org; Chris Ricker Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi,
Great :-) I was planning to fly over with 40 to 80 pounds of lego spare parts (that's what I have at home). But we also need pre-built buildings such as the one at http://dachary.org/loic/upun-6-7/. In Paris we had six prebuilt buildings (one for 10 participants) and it made for a great display at the end http://dachary.org/loic/group2.jpg
We tried shipping the existing pre-built buildings but found that it's quite difficult because they are fragile (therefore likely to break and probably take more time to repair than to build a new one from scratch) and long distance shipping of fragile items is almost as expensive than buying new ones.
A solution that worked in Atlanta was to buy lego sets and have them delivered to someone local and willing to assemble them and bring them with her/him to the training (thanks again to Chris Ricker for that ;-). The bonus being that the person gets to keep the lego afterwards (makes children very happy ;) because they cannot be conveniently shipped to the next training location. In Vancouver legos were hired from a local lego company. And the legos from the Paris training are in my attic in Paris should someone need them for training in this area.
Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-)
Cheers
On 26/07/2015 09:51, Takashi Torii wrote:
Hi Loic, and all,
I am happy to support Upstream Training in Tokyo!
Japan OpenStack User Group already had done Upstream Training in Japan version 3 times, so we have support you in many ways. Of-course, we are living in Tokyo.
Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Freund [mailto:tim@freunds.net] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:48 AM To: Loic Dachary; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi Loic -
That is a good point! I have moved the registration and first contact to August (the earlier the better).
Thanks,
Tim
Hi Tim,
Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but
On 07/25/2015 11:25 AM, Loic Dachary wrote: that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ?
Cheers
On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote:
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work
The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone
interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to
I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit
as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card.
Thank you!
Tim
On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote:
Sounds pretty good. I should be able to do something.
Shinobu
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote:
Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit : > Hi Tim, > > That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't
have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos.
So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter,
I'm
leaving my seat for anyone else. That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the
Paris
Upstream Training.
Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream
Training
modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current
situation.
Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping
me if
needed.
-Sylvain
> Cheers > > On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote: >> On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream
Training can
>>> be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and >>> Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more >>> volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have >>> enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too. >>> >>> The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference >>> kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for >>> this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support. >>> >>> We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process: >>> >>> - create the eventbrite page >>> - keep track of participants >>> - check/update the training material >>> - get the legos >>> - etc... >>> >>> After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements
last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. that it's
>>> worth incorporating in this edition. >>> >>> Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition? >> I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Community mailing list > Community@lists.openstack.org <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community
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Le 27/07/2015 04:57, Takashi Torii a écrit :
Hi Loic,
Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-) We have several box of Lego Classic, we don't have any set of house, castle etc. Our Upstream Training was about 30 students maximum, so it is not sufficient for the next training in Tokyo (approximately 50 to 60 people?).
I have started discussing with other members what we can do. The simple one is we will help pre-build using your parts and our parts before the training. We can carry the assembled Lego by taxi to the venue. Other options are preparing more parts in Japan by purchasing.
For the Vancouver event, Stefano found a Lego-as-a-Service provider who rented the boxes. I think it would make sense to find quite the same provider within Japan, because it definitely saves costs IMHO. Takashi, do you think there are some Japan companies doing that ? -Sylvain
Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Loic Dachary [mailto:loic@dachary.org] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 5:32 PM To: Torii Takashi(鳥居 隆史); Tim Freund; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org; Chris Ricker Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi,
Great :-) I was planning to fly over with 40 to 80 pounds of lego spare parts (that's what I have at home). But we also need pre-built buildings such as the one at http://dachary.org/loic/upun-6-7/. In Paris we had six prebuilt buildings (one for 10 participants) and it made for a great display at the end http://dachary.org/loic/group2.jpg
We tried shipping the existing pre-built buildings but found that it's quite difficult because they are fragile (therefore likely to break and probably take more time to repair than to build a new one from scratch) and long distance shipping of fragile items is almost as expensive than buying new ones.
A solution that worked in Atlanta was to buy lego sets and have them delivered to someone local and willing to assemble them and bring them with her/him to the training (thanks again to Chris Ricker for that ;-). The bonus being that the person gets to keep the lego afterwards (makes children very happy ;) because they cannot be conveniently shipped to the next training location. In Vancouver legos were hired from a local lego company. And the legos from the Paris training are in my attic in Paris should someone need them for training in this area.
Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-)
Cheers
On 26/07/2015 09:51, Takashi Torii wrote:
Hi Loic, and all,
I am happy to support Upstream Training in Tokyo!
Japan OpenStack User Group already had done Upstream Training in Japan version 3 times, so we have support you in many ways. Of-course, we are living in Tokyo.
Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Freund [mailto:tim@freunds.net] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:48 AM To: Loic Dachary; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi Loic -
That is a good point! I have moved the registration and first contact to August (the earlier the better).
Thanks,
Tim
Hi Tim,
Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but
Cheers
On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote:
Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: https://trello.com/b/VsS5MMPs
The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to
I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card. Thank you!
Tim
On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote: > Sounds pretty good. > I should be able to do something. > > Shinobu > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com > <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit : >> Hi Tim, >> >> That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos. > So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter, I'm > leaving my seat for anyone else. > That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good > mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the Paris > Upstream Training. > > Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream Training > modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. > Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me if > needed. > > -Sylvain > > >> Cheers >> >> On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote: >>> On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >>>> Hello folks, >>>> >>>> I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream Training can >>>> be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and >>>> Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more >>>> volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have >>>> enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too. >>>> >>>> The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference >>>> kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for >>>> this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support. >>>> >>>> We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process: >>>> >>>> - create the eventbrite page >>>> - keep track of participants >>>> - check/update the training material >>>> - get the legos >>>> - etc... >>>> >>>> After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements
On 07/25/2015 11:25 AM, Loic Dachary wrote: that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ? this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. that it's
>>>> worth incorporating in this edition. >>>> >>>> Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition? >>> I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate. >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community mailing list >> Community@lists.openstack.org <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community > > _______________________________________________ > Community mailing list > Community@lists.openstack.org <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > -- > Email: > shinobu@linux.com <mailto:shinobu@linux.com> skinjo@redhat.com > <mailto:skinjo@redhat.com> > > Life w/ Linux <http://i-shinobu.hatenablog.com/>
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Hi Sylvain, On 27/07/2015 09:31, Sylvain Bauza wrote:
Le 27/07/2015 04:57, Takashi Torii a écrit :
Hi Loic,
Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-) We have several box of Lego Classic, we don't have any set of house, castle etc. Our Upstream Training was about 30 students maximum, so it is not sufficient for the next training in Tokyo (approximately 50 to 60 people?).
I have started discussing with other members what we can do. The simple one is we will help pre-build using your parts and our parts before the training. We can carry the assembled Lego by taxi to the venue. Other options are preparing more parts in Japan by purchasing.
For the Vancouver event, Stefano found a Lego-as-a-Service provider who rented the boxes. I think it would make sense to find quite the same provider within Japan, because it definitely saves costs IMHO.
How much did it cost ? Do you have pictures of the Vancouver buildings ? Cheers
Takashi, do you think there are some Japan companies doing that ?
-Sylvain
Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Loic Dachary [mailto:loic@dachary.org] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 5:32 PM To: Torii Takashi(鳥居 隆史); Tim Freund; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org; Chris Ricker Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi,
Great :-) I was planning to fly over with 40 to 80 pounds of lego spare parts (that's what I have at home). But we also need pre-built buildings such as the one at http://dachary.org/loic/upun-6-7/. In Paris we had six prebuilt buildings (one for 10 participants) and it made for a great display at the end http://dachary.org/loic/group2.jpg
We tried shipping the existing pre-built buildings but found that it's quite difficult because they are fragile (therefore likely to break and probably take more time to repair than to build a new one from scratch) and long distance shipping of fragile items is almost as expensive than buying new ones.
A solution that worked in Atlanta was to buy lego sets and have them delivered to someone local and willing to assemble them and bring them with her/him to the training (thanks again to Chris Ricker for that ;-). The bonus being that the person gets to keep the lego afterwards (makes children very happy ;) because they cannot be conveniently shipped to the next training location. In Vancouver legos were hired from a local lego company. And the legos from the Paris training are in my attic in Paris should someone need them for training in this area.
Since you already organize trainings maybe you already have pre-built sets ? Any idea you have to try and resolve this would be good to hear :-)
Cheers
On 26/07/2015 09:51, Takashi Torii wrote:
Hi Loic, and all,
I am happy to support Upstream Training in Tokyo!
Japan OpenStack User Group already had done Upstream Training in Japan version 3 times, so we have support you in many ways. Of-course, we are living in Tokyo.
Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Freund [mailto:tim@freunds.net] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2015 2:48 AM To: Loic Dachary; skinjo@redhat.com; Sylvain Bauza Cc: Haikel Guemar; community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
Hi Loic -
That is a good point! I have moved the registration and first contact to August (the earlier the better).
Thanks,
Tim
Hi Tim,
Participating means someone needs to plan arrival two days in advance and book the flight tickets accordingly. Wouldn't it be better to open registration as soon as possible ? I see you planned it for September but
Cheers
On 25/07/2015 14:40, Tim Freund wrote: > Using Trello to manage the student intake and mentoring seemed to work last time, so I created a new Trello board to manage the planning process: > https://trello.com/b/VsS5MMPs > > The board is public, but only members can edit. I will add anyone interested in planning and implementation to the board -- just reply to
> I'm sure I've missed some steps on the board, so please add or edit as necessary. If you've never used Trello before, you can double-click any item to add additional detail on the back of the card. > Thank you! > > Tim > > > On 07/24/2015 11:11 PM, Shinobu Kinjo wrote: >> Sounds pretty good. >> I should be able to do something. >> >> Shinobu >> >> On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 7:13 AM, Sylvain Bauza <sbauza@redhat.com >> <mailto:sbauza@redhat.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Le 25/07/2015 00:06, Loic Dachary a écrit : >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> That's fantastic :-) I'll be in Tokyo as well. Although I don't have much time for preparation, you can count on me for the training and also to get the legos. >> So, since I'm going to Tokyo with my wife and my first daughter, I'm >> leaving my seat for anyone else. >> That said, I can propose Haikel Guemar (CC'd) for a good >> mentor/presenter since he was already a good assistant for the Paris >> Upstream Training. >> >> Nevertheless, I'm happy to help to review the next Upstream Training >> modifications and discuss on how to enhance the current situation. >> Also, my name is left for any mentoring on Nova, you can ping me if >> needed. >> >> -Sylvain >> >> >>> Cheers >>> >>> On 24/07/2015 22:17, Tim Freund wrote: >>>> On 07/24/2015 04:10 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: >>>>> Hello folks, >>>>> >>>>> I spoke this week with Lauren and confirmed that Upstream Training can >>>>> be organized also for Tokyo, like we've had it in Atlanta, Paris and >>>>> Vancouver. The main difference is that this time we'll need more >>>>> volunteer time to keep things running together because I don't have >>>>> enough bandwidth and the Foundation is short-staffed, too. >>>>> >>>>> The main dates are Sunday-Monday, October 25-26 (the main conference >>>>> kicks off Tuesday the 27th.) The Foundation has already set space for >>>>> this and FNtech can provide all the logistics support. >>>>> >>>>> We need someone to take the lead to manage the whole process: >>>>> >>>>> - create the eventbrite page >>>>> - keep track of participants >>>>> - check/update the training material >>>>> - get the legos >>>>> - etc... >>>>> >>>>> After Vancouver there were also suggestions for improvements
On 07/25/2015 11:25 AM, Loic Dachary wrote: that may be better, if possible, in August, don't you think ? this thread. If you have already volunteered on this thread, you will be added shortly after I send this email. that it's
>>>>> worth incorporating in this edition. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone want to take the lead for Upstream Training Tokyo edition? >>>> I have more bandwidth than usual this summer and fall, and I'll be happy to coordinate or co-coordinate. >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Community mailing list >>> Community@lists.openstack.org <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Community mailing list >> Community@lists.openstack.org <mailto:Community@lists.openstack.org> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> >> -- >> Email: >> shinobu@linux.com <mailto:shinobu@linux.com> skinjo@redhat.com >> <mailto:skinjo@redhat.com> >> >> Life w/ Linux <http://i-shinobu.hatenablog.com/> > -- Tim Freund 913-207-0983 | @timfreund http://tim.freunds.net
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How much did it cost ? Do you have pictures of the Vancouver buildings ?
In Vancouver I rented 6 Lego Creator boxes (3 large sets, 3 smaller ones) + 5,000 spare bricks for 900 Canadian dollars from https://www.papasbrickroom.com/ Pictures of the finished buildings: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/what-building-legos-can-teach-you-ab... HTH stef -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVtqvEAAoJEKxM0So/SE9qCnAH/3S0vjfwn6fe4hiRxX6lpsnJ VO9QJqfbToFcDBDB2HsSE6TmEAD1OX/I+HrlEVq/Y06L4S+7G8o3ti4fxkHmtDzO sg8HD5I1/f6k+65kyCi1KQlnb6LPCfzY/JBEvd9pRdJJuCTy9BxZNUQR7pGKwFB3 I8icjAWlc7LQweuTg/SbgOqF3I4c2XH191QwZvDhYQX24Y4zshZIastvmOSMRzHO y3jYMBrG//BtUaTZVGPuiFMf9G7rL5ECqKPBNQ/btJYURDJ0paFd6exke+DJDxMr MN0g92b41LSMrXq9ActB4y81I8kns+FjA2wyP3x8QtvpjA231EBkKOAALiXZ6+A= =dyKe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi, I will search the same type of LEGO rental service in Japan, so please wait. Regards, Takashi Torii
-----Original Message----- From: Stefano Maffulli [mailto:stefano@openstack.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:08 AM To: community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-community] Setting up Upstream Training in Tokyo [upstream]
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On 07/27/2015 01:50 AM, Loic Dachary wrote:
How much did it cost ? Do you have pictures of the Vancouver buildings ?
In Vancouver I rented 6 Lego Creator boxes (3 large sets, 3 smaller ones) + 5,000 spare bricks for 900 Canadian dollars from https://www.papasbrickroom.com/
Pictures of the finished buildings: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/what-building-legos-can-teach- you-about-open-source
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participants (9)
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Cindy Pallares
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David Medberry
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Loic Dachary
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Stefano Maffulli
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Sylvain Bauza
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Takashi Torii
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Tim Freund
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Tom Fifield
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Tony Campbell