[openstack-community] Country/region stats
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
+1
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Tristan Goode tristan@aptira.com wrote:
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
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+1
I.like.more than what.every.country.do also, so we.can have pattern.why that country.stat.up.
Like.china osug, have.emc rackspace partner. Here emc hp, dont like.community, because they want make openstack exclusive to their sales net, in several.case their.company.
F On Oct 19, 2013 2:24 PM, "atul jha" koolhead17@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Tristan Goode tristan@aptira.comwrote:
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
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Frans,
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Frans Thamura frans@meruvian.org wrote:
+1
<snip>
I.like.more than what.every.country.do also, so we.can have pattern.why that country.stat.up.
Like.china osug, have.emc rackspace partner. Here emc hp, dont like.community, because they want make openstack exclusive to their sales net, in several.case their.company.
</snip>
We all are working together to make OpenStack project awesome. All these organizations have contributed to the development of the project. I would urge you to take this thread to meaningful direction.
F On Oct 19, 2013 2:24 PM, "atul jha" koolhead17@gmail.com wrote:
+1
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Tristan Goode tristan@aptira.comwrote:
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
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We all are working together to make OpenStack project awesome. All these organizations have contributed to the development of the project. I would urge you to take this thread to meaningful direction.
Let me clarified, i am not talking about EMC HP etc.. but vendors sorry if you are from both.. i said "like" :) mean example
my experience managing java user group in last 15 years, i got several country esp emerging country, where subsidiaries pushed as sales entity, and dont have tech guy, will have a cross program in several case against each other, the sales target is quota of sales, in several case they are three months paybill, if dont achieve, must quit.
and user group mostly tech guy, if they are non technical, i believe more more tech than sales guy. esp we talk grizzly, havana, keystone, they are to techqie for sales and user.
and in this case user group focus to united the tech guy under one umbrella, and share experience, and yes in several case we are more techqie.. we are techqie guy anyway :)
this model different with head quarter that sponsor the foundation, i think in this case openstack.
in several case also, vendor create their own community, to make sure that their customer will go this community, this is of course will keep the customer out to the competitor, imagine redhat user group vs ubuntu user group in openstack market, or dell cloud vs hp cloud. which we know all openstack.
i want to know, how every country work with vendor, because in several case, vendor support, like china osug, they have, but in Indonesia, we dont have, i met with several director of enterprise from HP, Dell, VMWare etc, and they are mechanism also to sponsor, like from distributor or their gold partner..
hope this can clrified :)
F
Hi Tristan,
We are developing the community portal as a Foundation project, and we have exact plans to extract UG related data easily. As I know foundation have another project that will provide some form of OpenID authentication based on Foundation membership, in the 2nd phase (after the summit) I want to integrate this feature into the portal, so we can link members to local user groups. I think we can sit down in Hong Kong to discuss the details, what type of analytic data is important to us. (local group and geographic region trends can be a super-cool feature here)
Cheers, Márton
2013/10/19 Tristan Goode tristan@aptira.com
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
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That sounds great Marton, I look forward to seeing you again.
*From:* Marton Kiss [mailto:marton.kiss@gmail.com] *Sent:* Sunday, 20 October 2013 5:39 AM *To:* Tristan Goode *Cc:* OpenStack community *Subject:* Re: [openstack-community] Country/region stats
Hi Tristan,
We are developing the community portal as a Foundation project, and we have exact plans to extract UG related data easily. As I know foundation have another project that will provide some form of OpenID authentication based on Foundation membership, in the 2nd phase (after the summit) I want to integrate this feature into the portal, so we can link members to local user groups. I think we can sit down in Hong Kong to discuss the details, what type of analytic data is important to us. (local group and geographic region trends can be a super-cool feature here)
Cheers,
Márton
2013/10/19 Tristan Goode tristan@aptira.com
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
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On 10/19/2013 11:39 AM, Marton Kiss wrote:
We are developing the community portal as a Foundation project, and we have exact plans to extract UG related data easily.
For everybody: the project is hosted on http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/groups, the development version is on http://groups-dev.openstack.org/ and blueprints are on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-community/+spec/community-portal
As I know foundation have another project that will provide some form of OpenID authentication based on Foundation membership, in the 2nd phase (after the summit) I want to integrate this feature into the portal, so we can link members to local user groups.
Indeed, we're working on a Single Sign On authentication provider. I'm adding the relevant blueprints on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+spec/sso-openid-provider
I think we can sit down in Hong Kong to discuss the details, what type of analytic data is important to us. (local group and geographic region trends can be a super-cool feature here)
I think the reporting project is a separate one, actually. The groups portal and the SSO/Identity tool are IMHO "source" of data: we need to have good source for activities and be able to track generic 'things'.
To answer the original question by Tristan, I agree that the Foundation should enrich the reports it publishes now with geographic data. The only reason why this is not happening at the moment is that the database we have at the moment is not exporting geographic information. The Foundation has the data, we don't have a way to export it and represent it in a meaningful way.
I think we could hack something together rapidly to have a cute map but given that there there are people reworking heavily on reporting systems let's have a more comprehensive conversation in HK like Marton suggests and let's build a set of specs for adding the geographic dimension to the Activity Board. The first step to do is to list a set of questions we want to find answers for on it: Tristan, want to start a wiki page or send an email with those?
thanks, stef
Hi!
On 10/21/2013 09:45 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote:
[...]
I think we could hack something together rapidly to have a cute map but given that there there are people reworking heavily on reporting systems let's have a more comprehensive conversation in HK like Marton suggests and let's build a set of specs for adding the geographic dimension to the Activity Board. The first step to do is to list a set of questions we want to find answers for on it: Tristan, want to start a wiki page or send an email with those? thanks, stef
Indeed, the technology under the Activity Board already provides the support (database + viz) for geographical information. So far, based on lists of countries and some activity charts, top country tables and statistics around them.
So, from the technical point of view, once the data source is ready, this is a matter of having the specific questions as suggested by Stefano and later adapt the Activity Board :).
Regards, Daniel.
Agree
Stefano, any idea a meeting for osug leader in hk conf?
I love to be part of them...
F On Oct 20, 2013 1:39 AM, "Marton Kiss" marton.kiss@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Tristan,
We are developing the community portal as a Foundation project, and we have exact plans to extract UG related data easily. As I know foundation have another project that will provide some form of OpenID authentication based on Foundation membership, in the 2nd phase (after the summit) I want to integrate this feature into the portal, so we can link members to local user groups. I think we can sit down in Hong Kong to discuss the details, what type of analytic data is important to us. (local group and geographic region trends can be a super-cool feature here)
Cheers, Márton
2013/10/19 Tristan Goode tristan@aptira.com
Hi Community,
I've been wondering how the community would feel about (more) stats. I'm particularly interested in country/regional contribution stats, in the short term for the summit and longer term for the Foundation membership. It's great to see company contribution stats but I think there's another set of stats that could be made available to help build our community.
Because of the imminent HK Summit, the last cupla months I've constantly been asked "How many folks are going from <insert country or region here>?". I have to say I don't know other than the few people I'm in personal contact with. I think having some sort of country/region stats will help individuals and businesses make a decision to get involved. For a startup or small org considering summit sponsorship, seeing some stats on country attendance would be something that I would like to know if their market was regional.
It might also be great to see country/region stats for the Foundation membership to see how successful we are in having our local UG members join up. As an example, if we have 600 UG members and only 50 are OSF members, then we have might have work to do to find out why.
Another reason (and this is fresh in mind whilst I've been engaging with someone recently in Paraguay to start a UG there), it might help all of us with membership drives around the world and encourage people to form UGs if they can see there are actually others in their country/region/city that are members, or if there aren't. This is justification alone IMHO.
I can't actually think of any reasons not to publish country/regional stats.
Cheers Tristan
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On Mon 21 Oct 2013 04:19:16 PM PDT, Frans Thamura wrote:
Agree
Stefano, any idea a meeting for osug leader in hk conf?
There is an international panel scheduled on Nov 8 in this track http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/overview/type/community+buildin...
Panel: International Forum: The State of OpenStack Around the World
In past editions it worked as a place to discuss and highlight success stories and challenges for user groups around the world.
.stef
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+1
Will be there On Oct 22, 2013 8:09 AM, "Stefano Maffulli" stefano@openstack.org wrote:
On Mon 21 Oct 2013 04:19:16 PM PDT, Frans Thamura wrote:
Agree
Stefano, any idea a meeting for osug leader in hk conf?
There is an international panel scheduled on Nov 8 in this track
http://openstacksummitnovember2013.sched.org/overview/type/community+buildin...
Panel: International Forum: The State of OpenStack Around the World
In past editions it worked as a place to discuss and highlight success stories and challenges for user groups around the world.
.stef
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participants (6)
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atul jha
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Daniel Izquierdo
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Frans Thamura
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Marton Kiss
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Stefano Maffulli
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Tristan Goode