+2 for one system to track these details. Lots of noise whenever a new system comes out and its not fully accurate. Seems better to just avoid that noise in the first place. On 7/8/13 11:27 AM, "Tim Bell" <Tim.Bell@cern.ch> wrote:
It seems a pity to have duplicate efforts, especially when there are useful blueprints to help profile deployments like https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/opt-in-stats-tracking that could benefit from some community attention.
Tim
From: Joshua McKenty [mailto:joshua@pistoncloud.com] Sent: 08 July 2013 20:24 To: Stefano Maffulli Cc: Yujie Du; Gordon, Joe; Boris Renski; marketing@lists.openstack.org; Qingye Jiang; user-committee@lists.openstack.org; community@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [User-committee] [OpenStack Marketing] [openstack-community] qyjohn's quarterly report of the size and health of the 4 open source projects is out
I believe that the OpenStack marketing community sees comparisons to other open source cloud frameworks as significant competitive positioning. Accuracy in that data would be valuable to the whole community.
I *know* that a number of OpenStack member companies use their "position" in terms of ATC contributions as a marketing point, and having an accurate baseline for those numbers might also be valuable. For example, DreamHost has suddenly become the most substantial contributor to Quantum *ever*. :)
http://www.stackalytics.com/engineers/markmcclain?metric=loc&period=havana &project_type=incubation
As for myself, I often use the count of individual members, corporate members, and total committers in sales and marketing materials - and I've found a number of discrepancies in the user database that I find concerning (duplicate names, etc.). Solid, official data is valuable for everyone - and I think inviting these other projects to join the activity board effort, by making it an openstack project itself, could be a great way to get there.
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On Jul 8, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Stefano Maffulli <stefano@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi Josh
On Mon 08 Jul 2013 07:42:20 PM CEST, Joshua McKenty wrote:
Stefano, it seems like we're getting a proliferation of "stats and analysis" efforts, including Mirantis's newly launched http://www.stackalytics.com/. Would you be up for spearheading a new OpenStack "program" to coordinate these various efforts?
Sure, I like to think that I'm already half-way there with the Activity Board. Http://activity.openstack.org is the program I run now that wants to be the 'official' way to get useful stats and metrics. "Useful" in this context is data and metrics that are needed to manage the community and the development teams. We don't do comparisons with other projects and we are adding more and more features, sources and datapoints based on the feedback from project managers and users (see the first release of data from gerrit on the dash http://activity.openstack.org/dash/browser/scr.html). We are working hard to make sure that the data is correct and meaningful for day-to-day consumption, not just for quarterly reports and flashy announcements.
There is also a topic for the openstack-dev mailing list with interesting discussions coming from PTLs and project managers (http://openstack.markmail.org/search/?q=subject%3A[metrics]+list%3Aorg.op enstack.lists.openstack-dev to get an idea of what is discussed there).
I believe Mirantis started their effort before Activity Board was available and stackalytics was born out of their internal need to track lines of code (a metric that many in openstack-dev believe has less priority than other data points currently missing in Activity Board). Qingjye similarly had his own itch to scratch when he started doing the comparison across different projects.
What problem you believe such multitude of reports not coming from the Foundation is creating?
/stef
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