I don't like vote and promote myself either.
But suggestions are better than complains.

I think, the vote result is useful for track owners to understand audiences interests.
We just need to simplify the way to "vote".

Other than using single link for a single presentation,
listing all the presentations of one track in a single page will help the voter to understand the overall image of this track,
and save the voter's time to click "next page".

Maybe only listing titles and a short description.
If the voters want to understand details, provide a link for them.

Using only a tick to mark the topics that voters are interested, other than 4 levels of scores.
It's also a way to save voters' time.

Then maybe a voter only needs 10 minutes to finish the vote of his/her interested tracks.
Then more people would like to vote.
And then no people would bother to promote himself/herself.

Best regards
Ying Chun Guo (Daisy)


Dave Neary <dneary@redhat.com> wrote on 2014/02/20 23:51:24:

> Dave Neary <dneary@redhat.com>
> 2014/02/20 23:51
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> [openstack-community] OpenStack Summit proposal voting - not a fan
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> Hi all,
>
> Rather than just complain into the ether, I wanted to let people know
> why I don't like the voting process for conference proposals and see if
> I'm the only one.
>
> I don't think that the voting process is the best way to gauge whether
> proposals will be good for the conference. There are a few reasons for that:
>
> * Having to hawk & promote proposal(s) is kind of unseemly, and makes us
> look small, I think. Hundreds of people going "vote for me!" doesn't
> make us look good.
> * Some people don't want to pitch themselves, others don't have access
> to as big a platform to promote
> * The same issues exist with this system which exist with board voting -
> there is a possibility that people will vote for their colleagues, not
> out of any corruption, but just because no-one has time to rate all the
> proposals, and they're more likely to rate those submitted by people
> they know more highly
> * Also, it's a self-selecting group of people who rate proposals - I
> don't think voters will be representative of summit attendees
> * After all is said and done, the proposals which are chosen by the
> voters are guidelines to the people who choose the talks for the tracks,
> the track leaders
>
> I have been a track leader for the last number of summits, and I've seen
> first hand great presentations get very low numbers of votes, while
> others which are not as interesting get very high numbers of votes and
> high ratings.
>
> Personally, I would be happy if we could change the system to remove the
> "pimp my talk" aspect for Summits.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
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