From jbryce at jbryce.com  Mon Nov  4 03:00:18 2019
From: jbryce at jbryce.com (Jonathan Bryce)
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 21:00:18 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [OpenInfra Summit Shanghai] Some wrong
	information at Shanghai Summit
In-Reply-To: <CADJ6S4EV8hBmwDbFLbYsZXJqRNNAGO4kQo4FQC7qxV-bBEZTpQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADJ6S4EV8hBmwDbFLbYsZXJqRNNAGO4kQo4FQC7qxV-bBEZTpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <16e345a4ee0.27a5.eb5fa01e01bf15c6e0d805bdb1ad935e@jbryce.com>

Hi Trinh,

I apologize for the error on the presentation. We have corrected it in 
version of the slides that will be distributed.

We definitely appreciate the efforts of all of the community organizers, 
and I'm sorry for the mix up.

Jonathan


On November 3, 2019 20:55:34 Trinh Nguyen <dangtrinhnt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear OSF,
>
> I don't attend the Shanghai summit but I notice some pictures of the 
> presentation which Jonathan Bryce is delivering. The attached photo is 
> about the OpenInfra Days around the world and the one on the left is 
> OpenInfra Days Vietnam, not Korea. I know it's just a little thing but 
> because it already upset some of our community members I would like to ask 
> for correction. The Vietnam OpenInfra Community has been putting lots of 
> effort to be recognize so please understand.
>
> Bests,
>
> Trinh
>
> --
>
> Trinh Nguyen
> www.edlab.xyz

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From dangtrinhnt at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 03:02:49 2019
From: dangtrinhnt at gmail.com (Trinh Nguyen)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:02:49 +0900
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [OpenInfra Summit Shanghai] Some wrong
	information at Shanghai Summit
In-Reply-To: <16e345a4ee0.27a5.eb5fa01e01bf15c6e0d805bdb1ad935e@jbryce.com>
References: <CADJ6S4EV8hBmwDbFLbYsZXJqRNNAGO4kQo4FQC7qxV-bBEZTpQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <16e345a4ee0.27a5.eb5fa01e01bf15c6e0d805bdb1ad935e@jbryce.com>
Message-ID: <CADJ6S4Ghrx5ikanuLStVZnP1+dZzA+FuKgWEW8KCYxrQe+P7Mw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank Jonathan for the quick response. I really appreciate that.

Bests,

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 12:00 PM Jonathan Bryce <jbryce at jbryce.com> wrote:

> Hi Trinh,
>
> I apologize for the error on the presentation. We have corrected it in
> version of the slides that will be distributed.
>
> We definitely appreciate the efforts of all of the community organizers,
> and I'm sorry for the mix up.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
> On November 3, 2019 20:55:34 Trinh Nguyen <dangtrinhnt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear OSF,
>>
>> I don't attend the Shanghai summit but I notice some pictures of the
>> presentation which Jonathan Bryce is delivering. The attached photo is
>> about the OpenInfra Days around the world and the one on the left is *OpenInfra
>> Days Vietnam*, not Korea. I know it's just a little thing but because it
>> already upset some of our community members I would like to ask for
>> correction. The Vietnam OpenInfra Community has been putting lots of effort
>> to be recognize so please understand.
>>
>> Bests,
>>
>> Trinh
>>
>> --
>> *Trinh Nguyen*
>> *www.edlab.xyz <https://www.edlab.xyz>*
>>
>>
>

-- 
*Trinh Nguyen*
*www.edlab.xyz <https://www.edlab.xyz>*
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From ushnishtha at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  3 02:38:49 2019
From: ushnishtha at hotmail.com (Egle Sigler)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 02:38:49 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] Interop Board Report
Message-ID: <DM6PR15MB36604E6ABED11DBED636060BC07C0@DM6PR15MB3660.namprd15.prod.outlook.com>

Hello Everyone,

I am attaching a pdf of the board report since google doesn't work in China.
For those not in China, it is available here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E8DwY-BGQdcy-u7jQOeGsWUh06yXNGNyk_yZvTTtXbo/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you,
Egle

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From dangtrinhnt at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 02:18:54 2019
From: dangtrinhnt at gmail.com (Trinh Nguyen)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:18:54 +0900
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [OpenInfra Summit Shanghai] Some wrong
	information at Shanghai Summit
Message-ID: <CADJ6S4EV8hBmwDbFLbYsZXJqRNNAGO4kQo4FQC7qxV-bBEZTpQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear OSF,

I don't attend the Shanghai summit but I notice some pictures of the
presentation which Jonathan Bryce is delivering. The attached photo is
about the OpenInfra Days around the world and the one on the left is *OpenInfra
Days Vietnam*, not Korea. I know it's just a little thing but because it
already upset some of our community members I would like to ask for
correction. The Vietnam OpenInfra Community has been putting lots of effort
to be recognize so please understand.

Bests,

Trinh

-- 
*Trinh Nguyen*
*www.edlab.xyz <https://www.edlab.xyz>*
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From amy at demarco.com  Sun Nov 17 22:25:44 2019
From: amy at demarco.com (Amy Marrich)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 16:25:44 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] Diversity WG Meeting reminder
	11/18
Message-ID: <CEA80671-CF02-4BC5-8149-A9207FB5829A@demarco.com>

The Diversity & Inclusion WG will hold its next meeting tomorrow at 17:00 UTC in the #openstack-diversity channel. The agenda can be found at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda. Please feel free to add any other topics you wish to discuss at the meeting. 

Thanks,
Amy (spotz)
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From jonathan at openstack.org  Thu Nov 21 19:07:47 2019
From: jonathan at openstack.org (Jonathan Bryce)
Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:07:47 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] 2020 OpenStack Individual Director
	nominations are open
Message-ID: <413B9A04-2AB1-4C33-82A8-FE2312D93D4B@openstack.org>

Hi everyone,

The nominating period is now open for candidates in the 2020 OSF Board of Director Individual Member elections.

You can visit https://www.openstack.org/election/2020-individual-director-election/ for more information on the election or to nominate an individual member of the OpenStack Foundation as a candidate. The requirements for nominating any individual to run for the Board must be completed and received by the OpenStack Foundation on or prior to 23:59 UTC on December 13, 2019.

If anyone has any questions, please reach out to me.

Jonathan

From alanclark at openstack.org  Mon Nov 25 16:39:04 2019
From: alanclark at openstack.org (Alan Clark)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 09:39:04 -0700
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] OpenStack Board Call, December 10, 2019,
	7am pacific
Message-ID: <014401d5a3ae$da0deb80$8e29c280$@openstack.org>

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From gr at ham.ie  Tue Nov 26 12:55:28 2019
From: gr at ham.ie (Graham Hayes)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:55:28 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
Message-ID: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>

Hey All,

I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
was created to facilitate. [1]

A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.

What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?

- Graham


1 - https://savedotorg.org/


From thierry at openstack.org  Tue Nov 26 13:01:05 2019
From: thierry at openstack.org (Thierry Carrez)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:01:05 +0100
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
Message-ID: <0ce58718-427a-036b-1c28-192cf3e9b88c@openstack.org>

Graham Hayes wrote:
> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
> was created to facilitate. [1]
> 
> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
> 
> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?

It probably makes more sense (and has more weight) at the Foundation-level.

-- 
Thierry Carrez


From sean.mcginnis at gmail.com  Tue Nov 26 14:14:29 2019
From: sean.mcginnis at gmail.com (Sean McGinnis)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:14:29 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
Message-ID: <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
> was created to facilitate. [1]
>
> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>
> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>
> - Graham
>
>
> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>

I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their
names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of
organizations.

Sean


From jean-philippe at evrard.me  Tue Nov 26 14:25:05 2019
From: jean-philippe at evrard.me (Jean-Philippe Evrard)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 15:25:05 +0100
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
 <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <21b14ae74ca92eeae7da448e2f5076d2297310fe.camel@evrard.me>

Hello,

I agree with others: IMO, it is the Foundation who should act on this.
I would love to see the OpenStack Foundation logo out there.

Thank Graham for showing us this petition!

Regards,
JP





From gr at ham.ie  Tue Nov 26 14:33:10 2019
From: gr at ham.ie (Graham Hayes)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:33:10 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <21b14ae74ca92eeae7da448e2f5076d2297310fe.camel@evrard.me>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
 <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
 <21b14ae74ca92eeae7da448e2f5076d2297310fe.camel@evrard.me>
Message-ID: <d264ccb0-d8c6-eae7-6b14-b8e0abf866d4@ham.ie>

On 26/11/2019 14:25, Jean-Philippe Evrard wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I agree with others: IMO, it is the Foundation who should act on this.
> I would love to see the OpenStack Foundation logo out there.
> 
> Thank Graham for showing us this petition!
> 
> Regards,
> JP
> 

I am not sure of the procedure, I am more than willing to put this
on the board agenda for Dec 10th, if that is allowed.

It should be a simple board resolution along the lines of:

   The Board supports the aims of the savedotorg
   campaign, and resolves to add its name to the list of
   supporting organizations.

Unless someone shouts I will propose it on the agenda [1] by EOW.

1 -
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/10December2019BoardMeeting

> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Foundation mailing list
> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
> 



From gr at ham.ie  Tue Nov 26 14:34:09 2019
From: gr at ham.ie (Graham Hayes)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 14:34:09 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
 <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47a312e7-fc13-c9df-16ce-1117fbc7633e@ham.ie>

On 26/11/2019 14:14, Sean McGinnis wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
>> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
>> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
>> was created to facilitate. [1]
>>
>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
>> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>>
>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
>> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>>
>> - Graham
>>
>>
>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>>
> 
> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their
> names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of
> organizations.

Yeap - that is a good point - I would encourage people who agree with
the petition to sign as individuals as well.

> Sean
> 



From amy at demarco.com  Tue Nov 26 14:50:02 2019
From: amy at demarco.com (Amy)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:50:02 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
	community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALvgmaS+w4zVjSpz8Pc4HGwHLb0Swt9yO9jPLa9MuEwc5L7mtg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <057BD0AC-451C-4E64-9D30-6CC6A20DFA0F@demarco.com>

I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.

Amy Marrich (spotz)

> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey All,
>> 
>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
>> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
>> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
>> was created to facilitate. [1]
>> 
>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
>> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>> 
>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
>> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>> 
>> - Graham
>> 
>> 
>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>> 
> 
> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their
> names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of
> organizations.
> 
> Sean
> 


From jimmy at openstack.org  Tue Nov 26 16:16:14 2019
From: jimmy at openstack.org (Jimmy McArthur)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:16:14 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
	community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <057BD0AC-451C-4E64-9D30-6CC6A20DFA0F@demarco.com>
References: <057BD0AC-451C-4E64-9D30-6CC6A20DFA0F@demarco.com>
Message-ID: <1595EA09-2B8C-45ED-B836-5751FC79DBA1@openstack.org>

From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?

Thanks,
Jimmy


> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <amy at demarco.com> wrote:
> 
> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
> 
> Amy Marrich (spotz)
> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey All,
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
>>> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
>>> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
>>> was created to facilitate. [1]
>>> 
>>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
>>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
>>> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>>> 
>>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
>>> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>>> 
>>> - Graham
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>>> 
>> 
>> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their
>> names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of
>> organizations.
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Foundation mailing list
> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation



From gr at ham.ie  Tue Nov 26 16:34:42 2019
From: gr at ham.ie (Graham Hayes)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:34:42 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <1595EA09-2B8C-45ED-B836-5751FC79DBA1@openstack.org>
References: <057BD0AC-451C-4E64-9D30-6CC6A20DFA0F@demarco.com>
 <1595EA09-2B8C-45ED-B836-5751FC79DBA1@openstack.org>
Message-ID: <c5012671-8e54-7204-4270-4d989841e319@ham.ie>

On 26/11/2019 16:16, Jimmy McArthur wrote:
> From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jimmy

My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the
owners into halting the sale.

I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days
after they were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and
raising our voices, this could help convince the current owners of
PIR (who is ISOC) to re-consider the idea.


>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <amy at demarco.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
>>
>> Amy Marrich (spotz)
>>
>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey All,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
>>>> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
>>>> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
>>>> was created to facilitate. [1]
>>>>
>>>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
>>>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
>>>> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>>>>
>>>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>>>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
>>>> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>>>>
>>>> - Graham
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their
>>> names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of
>>> organizations.
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Foundation mailing list
>> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
> 



From jimmy at tipit.net  Tue Nov 26 16:49:21 2019
From: jimmy at tipit.net (Jimmy Mcarthur)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:49:21 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <c5012671-8e54-7204-4270-4d989841e319@ham.ie>
References: <057BD0AC-451C-4E64-9D30-6CC6A20DFA0F@demarco.com>
 <1595EA09-2B8C-45ED-B836-5751FC79DBA1@openstack.org>
 <c5012671-8e54-7204-4270-4d989841e319@ham.ie>
Message-ID: <5DDD5791.8050506@tipit.net>



> Graham Hayes <mailto:gr at ham.ie>
> November 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM
>
>
> My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the
> owners into halting the sale.
>
> I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days
> after they were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and
> raising our voices, this could help convince the current owners of
> PIR (who is ISOC) to re-consider the idea.
Great news!  Thanks for the clarification.  I already added my name to 
the list and definitely agree about the Foundation support.  I'll raise 
it on our ML as well.
>
>
>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy<amy at demarco.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
>>>
>>> Amy Marrich (spotz)
>>>
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis<sean.mcginnis at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes<gr at ham.ie>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
>>>>> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, in
>>>>> a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that it
>>>>> was created to facilitate. [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
>>>>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and
>>>>> uses a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>>>>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
>>>>> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>>>>>
>>>>> - Graham
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>>>>>
>>>> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add their
>>>> names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list of
>>>> organizations.
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Foundation mailing list
>>> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Foundation mailing list
> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
> Jimmy McArthur <mailto:jimmy at openstack.org>
> November 26, 2019 at 10:16 AM
> From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like 
> ICAAN just crammed it through. Is there new info out that could 
> reverse it?
>
> Thanks,
> Jimmy
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Foundation mailing list
> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
> Amy <mailto:amy at demarco.com>
> November 26, 2019 at 8:50 AM
> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other 
> projects. I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
>
> Amy Marrich (spotz)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Foundation mailing list
> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation

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From gr at ham.ie  Tue Nov 26 17:33:23 2019
From: gr at ham.ie (Graham Hayes)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 17:33:23 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <CY4PR1801MB20234FF2F06F00BDB10CBC19B3450@CY4PR1801MB2023.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
References: <057BD0AC-451C-4E64-9D30-6CC6A20DFA0F@demarco.com>
 <1595EA09-2B8C-45ED-B836-5751FC79DBA1@openstack.org>
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On 26/11/2019 16:44, Alan Clark wrote:
> Who owns savedotorg.org?  I see EFF references on the page but when I look it up the domain it appears to all be "REDACTED".

>From https://savedotorg.org/index.php/about/ - it is ran by
NTEN (https://www.nten.org/)

It is supported by the EFF (among others)

> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Graham Hayes [mailto:gr at ham.ie]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 9:35 AM
>> To: Jimmy McArthur <jimmy at openstack.org>
>> Cc: openstack-discuss at lists.openstack.org; foundation-
>> board at lists.openstack.org; foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
>> community support to the savedotorg campaign
>>
>> On 26/11/2019 16:16, Jimmy McArthur wrote:
>>> From my reading of the situation, it’s a done deal. It seems like ICAAN just
>> crammed it through. Is there new info out that could reverse it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jimmy
>>
>> My understanding is it looks bleak, but there is a chance to shame the owners
>> into halting the sale.
>>
>> I think ICAAN can still block the same (until December 13th, 30 days after they
>> were notified), and through pure poor marketing, and raising our voices, this
>> could help convince the current owners of PIR (who is ISOC) to re-consider the
>> idea.
>>
>>
>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Amy <amy at demarco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree with the OSF submitting on behalf of OpenStack and the other projects.
>> I also like the idea of individuals signing as contributors.
>>>>
>>>> Amy Marrich (spotz)
>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2019, at 8:17 AM, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there
>>>>>> is a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the
>>>>>> works, in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non
>>>>>> profits that it was created to facilitate. [1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
>>>>>> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses
>>>>>> a .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>>>>>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should
>>>>>> use its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Graham
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add
>>>>> their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to
>>>>> the list of organizations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Foundation mailing list
>>>> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
>>>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Foundation mailing list
>> Foundation at lists.openstack.org
>> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation



From Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com  Tue Nov 26 18:13:43 2019
From: Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com (Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:13:43 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <0ce58718-427a-036b-1c28-192cf3e9b88c@openstack.org>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
 <0ce58718-427a-036b-1c28-192cf3e9b88c@openstack.org>
Message-ID: <6cb8c720cfe24846b097249b0e2c2652@AUSX13MPS308.AMER.DELL.COM>

Sounds good

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:01 AM
To: Graham Hayes; foundation-board at lists.openstack.org; foundation at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign


[EXTERNAL EMAIL] 

Graham Hayes wrote:
> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is 
> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works, 
> in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that 
> it was created to facilitate. [1]
> 
> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a 
> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a 
> .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
> 
> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on 
> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use 
> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?

It probably makes more sense (and has more weight) at the Foundation-level.

--
Thierry Carrez

_______________________________________________
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http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/foundation

From mark.radcliffe at dlapiper.com  Tue Nov 26 18:58:14 2019
From: mark.radcliffe at dlapiper.com (Radcliffe, Mark)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 18:58:14 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
 community support to the savedotorg campaign
In-Reply-To: <6cb8c720cfe24846b097249b0e2c2652@AUSX13MPS308.AMER.DELL.COM>
References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
 <0ce58718-427a-036b-1c28-192cf3e9b88c@openstack.org>
 <6cb8c720cfe24846b097249b0e2c2652@AUSX13MPS308.AMER.DELL.COM>
Message-ID: <CH2PR17MB37362D4F797CF900C466121CC5450@CH2PR17MB3736.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

I am enclosing the statement by the Apache Software Foundation: https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-software-foundation-objects.

-----Original Message-----
From: Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com <Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 10:14 AM
To: thierry at openstack.org; gr at ham.ie; foundation-board at lists.openstack.org; foundation at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [Foundation Board] [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign

[EXTERNAL]

Sounds good

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:01 AM
To: Graham Hayes; foundation-board at lists.openstack.org; foundation at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Graham Hayes wrote:
> I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
> a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works,
> in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that
> it was created to facilitate. [1]
>
> A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
> community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a
> .org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.
>
> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?

It probably makes more sense (and has more weight) at the Foundation-level.

--
Thierry Carrez

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From rv6848 at att.com  Tue Nov 26 22:20:12 2019
From: rv6848 at att.com (VAN WYK, RYAN L)
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 22:20:12 +0000
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [Foundation Board] [tc][board][all] -
 Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign
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References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
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Agree

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On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:14 PM, "Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com" <Arkady.Kanevsky at dell.com> wrote:

Sounds good

-----Original Message-----
From: Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 7:01 AM
To: Graham Hayes; foundation-board at lists.openstack.org; foundation at lists.openstack.org
Subject: Re: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack community support to the savedotorg campaign


[EXTERNAL EMAIL]

Graham Hayes wrote:
I am not sure if this has been seen by everyone or not - but there is
a change in how the .org top level domain is being ran in the works,
in a way that may not be in the best interests of the non profits that
it was created to facilitate. [1]

A lot of  well known non profits have already joined, and as a
community that has an interest in the internet as a whole, and uses a
.org domain, I think we should add our voice in support.

What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?

It probably makes more sense (and has more weight) at the Foundation-level.

--
Thierry Carrez

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From kurt at garloff.de  Wed Nov 27 05:33:26 2019
From: kurt at garloff.de (Kurt Garloff)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 06:33:26 +0100
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [tc][board][all] - Adding OpenStack
	community support to the savedotorg campaign
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References: <e1f1982d-c53f-e223-6538-bff07a56626c@ham.ie>
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Message-ID: <29A4C161-3519-463C-A568-5A25651002C1@garloff.de>

Hi, 

On 26 November 2019 15:14:29 CET, Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis at gmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM Graham Hayes <gr at ham.ie> wrote:
>>[...] 
>> What do people think? Are we happy to have the TC use its voice on
>> behalf of the OpenStack project, or do we think the board should use
>> its voice on behalf of the entire foundation?
>>
>> - Graham
>>
>>
>> 1 - https://savedotorg.org/
>>
>
>I agree this is a Foundation level thing (though individuals can add
>their names to the petition as well). I would support adding OSF to the list
>of organizations.

+1

-- 
Kurt Garloff <kurt at garloff.de>, Cologne, Germany
(Sent from Mobile with K9.)


From amy at demarco.com  Wed Nov 27 17:41:52 2019
From: amy at demarco.com (Amy Marrich)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 11:41:52 -0600
Subject: [OpenStack Foundation] [Diversity] Meeting Reminder
Message-ID: <CAFs83QrsX+c13MCQ2-TrpmSUxzY5Z=W6Vbnst4C8suYKm2H-rw@mail.gmail.com>

Just wanted to remind everyone we will hold the next Diversity and
Inclusion Working Group meeting on Monday, 12/2 at 17:00 UTC in
#openstack-diversity. Agendas can be found at
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/diversity-wg-agenda

Thanks,

Amy (spotz)
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